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The USA keeps popping up as an example, but their homogeneity is the result of a civil war which was their bloodiest war to date. And Europe is not that divers

The USA keeps popping up as an example, but their homogeneity is the result of a civil war which was their bloodiest war to date. And Europe is not that diverse. Many of us are Christian descendants of the Roman empire or of Germanic origins and share mostly the same values, beliefs and even culture. Sure we have our local customs, art and preferences, but a majority of the TV movies and shows we watch and of the books we read and of the news we hear about are pretty much the same, with slight variation. Many of us also learn English, French or German since primary school. Note English is not my native language and here I am, communicating with you. Such education was maybe uncommon 50 years ago, but there's nothing another generation or two can't fix. I don't really understand your concerns. What's the problem in the single currency or in the unifying political body? The only problems I'm seeing are those that could be solved by having an actual political union. You speak of sovereignty. In case you haven't noticed, there's the US hegemony, there's the rising China hegemony and who knows, Russia might make a comeback, with its maniacal daddy included. United we'd be stronger. In fact it is the EU that's the biggest economy in the world. But divided we'll be at their whims, we'll be strong-armed into any treaty they want. And divided we are.

hacknat 10y ago
>The USA keeps popping up as an example, but their homogeneity is the result of a civil war which was their bloodiest war to date. This backs up my claim. Though our homogeneity wasn't the result of the war. > And Europe is not that diverse. I don't even. It's fairly white...But not diverse? Are you kidding? > What's the problem in the single currency or in the unifying political body? Disproportionate outcome of opportunity. Greece voted fat pensions and benefits for their citizenry (as did Spain and Italy) and in order to protect the currency and the political stability of the EU Germans are stuck footing the bill. Common currencies work when it is relatively easy for anyone (including lower classes) to up and move within the region of the common currency to get a new job. The diverse culture, language differences, and disparate sovereignties in the EU make this difficult. Hence the bailouts and the blowback. >divided we'll be at their whims United you're holding each other hostage. You guys look like the Microsoft org chart right now. Cf http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/microsoft-org-chart.jpg http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011...
- NetStrikeForce 10y ago
  > Greece voted fat pensions and benefits for their citizenry (as did Spain and Italy) and in order to protect the currency and the political stability of the EU Germans are stuck footing the bill. What. You are either extremely disinformed, malicious or just plainly racist to believe and redistribute that kind of wrong information. If the Germans had to pay Greece's, Italy's and Spain's debt they would be bankrupted for a couple of centuries. It's actually those very same countries who are paying their own debts through austerity measures and increase of taxes (which doesn't seem to work really well, but that's a different discussion). Germany has grown so much thanks to those countries spending money on German manufactures, with money lent mainly by German and Dutch banks. It has been all a massive scam where North Europe has used the corrupt politicians in South Europe to siphon all the money of South European citizens. They took the risks gambling with the money of Northern European citizens. This is and always have been a class war, not a national or race war. Those of you who can't see it are doomed to be puppets of others.

hacknat 10y ago

>The USA keeps popping up as an example, but their homogeneity is the result of a civil war which was their bloodiest war to date. This backs up my claim. Though our homogeneity wasn't the result of the war. > And Europe is not that diverse. I don't even. It's fairly white...But not diverse? Are you kidding? > What's the problem in the single currency or in the unifying political body? Disproportionate outcome of opportunity. Greece voted fat pensions and benefits for their citizenry (as did Spain and Italy) and in order to protect the currency and the political stability of the EU Germans are stuck footing the bill. Common currencies work when it is relatively easy for anyone (including lower classes) to up and move within the region of the common currency to get a new job. The diverse culture, language differences, and disparate sovereignties in the EU make this difficult. Hence the bailouts and the blowback. >divided we'll be at their whims United you're holding each other hostage. You guys look like the Microsoft org chart right now. Cf http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/microsoft-org-chart.jpg http://www.globalnerdy.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011...

NetStrikeForce 10y ago
> Greece voted fat pensions and benefits for their citizenry (as did Spain and Italy) and in order to protect the currency and the political stability of the EU Germans are stuck footing the bill. What. You are either extremely disinformed, malicious or just plainly racist to believe and redistribute that kind of wrong information. If the Germans had to pay Greece's, Italy's and Spain's debt they would be bankrupted for a couple of centuries. It's actually those very same countries who are paying their own debts through austerity measures and increase of taxes (which doesn't seem to work really well, but that's a different discussion). Germany has grown so much thanks to those countries spending money on German manufactures, with money lent mainly by German and Dutch banks. It has been all a massive scam where North Europe has used the corrupt politicians in South Europe to siphon all the money of South European citizens. They took the risks gambling with the money of Northern European citizens. This is and always have been a class war, not a national or race war. Those of you who can't see it are doomed to be puppets of others.