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Like I said, the government failed, not the EU. The Vote Leave campaigners used EU as a scapegoat. The likes of Boris Johnson need to be punished for lying to t

by wanda 10y ago

Like I said, the government failed, not the EU. The Vote Leave campaigners used EU as a scapegoat. The likes of Boris Johnson need to be punished for lying to the electorate and for whatever financial problems are now around the corner. Brexit is a way for particular individuals to gain influence and power within their lifetimes and to duck the blows of a working-class which, when Labour was strong, would have made them pay for the Tory disregard for the rural and/or low-income electorate.

tremon 10y ago
when Labour was strong I don't think Labour under Blair did much more to reinvigorate the rural and former industrial areas. While I very much agree with your general assessment, "blame it all on the tories" is not the right sentiment.
- wanda 10y ago
  Sorry, I should clarify that I blame Blair's government as well. Absolutely agree. I actually still remember my penniless, scrounging father telling me how Blair/Labour was going to change everything in 1997. Practically crying about it while Blair celebrated on the CRT screen. How absurd that turned out to be. I remember the miner/north-eastern side of my family practically disowning me when I praised some of Thatcher's policies and refused to back down. That was a rubbish Christmas – they still regard me as a traitor to my class, even now, especially given my line of work. I didn't go to university. I just worked my arse off and used my own initiative. Now I find myself rather distant from everybody in my age group and income grade. Most of them cannot cook, repair their jeans, repair their smartphone chargers if the cable is snapped, etc. They've never had to think about such things, and they look at me with dismay when I suggest fixing something instead of replacing it. People worse off just deliberately treat their possessions carelessly because nothing matters to them. I cannot understand either side. Naturally I gravitate to realpolitik. I feel no animosity or envy toward the privileged or wealthy. It does not make sense. I just want to go my way, maybe invest one day when I can afford the risk.

by wanda 10y ago

tremon 10y ago

when Labour was strong I don't think Labour under Blair did much more to reinvigorate the rural and former industrial areas. While I very much agree with your general assessment, "blame it all on the tories" is not the right sentiment.

wanda 10y ago
Sorry, I should clarify that I blame Blair's government as well. Absolutely agree. I actually still remember my penniless, scrounging father telling me how Blair/Labour was going to change everything in 1997. Practically crying about it while Blair celebrated on the CRT screen. How absurd that turned out to be. I remember the miner/north-eastern side of my family practically disowning me when I praised some of Thatcher's policies and refused to back down. That was a rubbish Christmas – they still regard me as a traitor to my class, even now, especially given my line of work. I didn't go to university. I just worked my arse off and used my own initiative. Now I find myself rather distant from everybody in my age group and income grade. Most of them cannot cook, repair their jeans, repair their smartphone chargers if the cable is snapped, etc. They've never had to think about such things, and they look at me with dismay when I suggest fixing something instead of replacing it. People worse off just deliberately treat their possessions carelessly because nothing matters to them. I cannot understand either side. Naturally I gravitate to realpolitik. I feel no animosity or envy toward the privileged or wealthy. It does not make sense. I just want to go my way, maybe invest one day when I can afford the risk.