First let me say I really appreciate your comment. The flip side is that using evidence is immediately dismissed as elitist. Studies performed by governments

First let me say I really appreciate your comment. The flip side is that using evidence is immediately dismissed as elitist. Studies performed by governments and universities are either corrupt or ivory-tower nonsense. How are you supposed to have a rational discussion if simply pointing to facts and data is alienating? And to answer your question, what I find terrifying is that anger is what propels the vote for Trump and Farage et al. It's not even self-interest. These people are going to hurt themselves, and everyone else in their country, because they feel that they're being ignored? We're siamese twins and they've got a gun pointed at our shared foot. How is that not scary? I genuinely believe that the biggest problem in the developed world is the economic problems of the working class. But the majority of them have spent almost all their political capital on fighting against things that have nothing to do with economics (e.g. gay rights), or fighting for things that have objectively and immediately worsened their situation (e.g. cutting government benefits and consumer/worker protection regulations) for the vague promise of a better economy in which things will improve again for them, even though after 40 years and many right-wing governments that has never materialized. How are you supposed to address that kind of self-destruction without sounding condescending? How do you debate someone who thinks it's all a big conspiracy, and that the only ones they can trust are those that say the things that they already agree with?