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>liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and cl

>liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Or that the GOP hasn't consistently been fighting against LGBT rights for decades?

chillwaves 10y ago
The person you are responding to means to say that they are unhappy with being called on sexist/racist behavior and can't we just go back to the good old days where white male dominance was the cultural norm?
- mzw_mzw 10y ago
  Please don't use racist language on HN.
WalterBright 10y ago
> Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Scott Adams has some interesting commentary on this: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotiz...
- colemickens 10y ago
  "Trump has never mentioned race beyond pointing how how many African-Americans and Latinos support him. Ask your anti-Trumper to offer evidence otherwise. Then point out…" Do people actually buy this absolute bullshit? Just unbelievable. Good one. I guess he hasn't called migrants from Mexico rapists? I guess his discussion of the judge's race and nationality wasn't racist either? yeah? And yes, separating out his xenophobia and religious discrimination against Muslims is much better than lumping that in with his other racist speech. Now I'm dying to support him. His fellow GOPers are calling him a racist and yet somehow I'm expected to just ignore reality? Scott Adams is really a piece of work in this blog post of mental gymnastics. The little pity party he throws for himself at the bottom is a nice touch. God forbid someone hold those voting for fascists accountable. It's almost like minorities and LGBT folk have more at stake or something.
  - ps4fanboy 10y ago
    I would hardly call pointing out the judges membership in La Raza a latino supremacist group racist?
- Frondo 10y ago
  Scott Adams isn't very smart, I don't think. His blog posts and essays are, far more often than not, really surprisingly shallow. Regarding Donald Trump's racism, this is how he can be racist without saying "black people are stupid and smelly" on national TV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
  - WalterBright 10y ago
    In general, I like to read viewpoints that are different than mine, it's challenging. Listening to people who agree with me is boring. Dog whistle politics is certainly pervasive in politics on all sides, and it is an important thing for people to recognize.
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    - Frondo 10y ago
      Yeah, me too. I just like it when the writers are at least a little insightful. I never get that sense from Scott Adams. It reminds me a little of being back in high school when I read his stuff, a few decades ago, when my pals and I were starting to, tentatively and sloppily, feel out bigger philosophical ideas about the world.
- drumdance 10y ago
  The irony of that post is it doesn't use any of the persuasion tricks he talks about. I almost wonder if it was meant as a parody.
MajorLOL 10y ago
You couldn't have intentionally done a better job of proving my point. I make a political statement. The first response is; Pivot target away from me and to a straw man (Trump & GOP). Label the straw men with your narrative of *ist and begin the appeal to common sense fallacy. You also triggered me by changing the conversation away from liberal attack methods and bringing up LGBT issues.
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- colemickens 10y ago
  So if you're not defending Trump or your support of Trump then what is your point? You just want to support a sexist, racist and bigot without having to be held accountable for it? And the shitty, completely out-of-the-blue joke about triggering at the end. Nice that you want to allude to blanket dismissal of social causes just because I brought up LGBT issues. The only way you could be a bigger cliche is if you called me an "SJW" and spit on the ground afterward. Grow up. I'm done with this pointless conversation. Happy Pride, asshole.
  - DanBC 10y ago
    you can ignore or flag the obvious trolls.
  - dang 10y ago
    Both of you have broken the HN guidelines. Please (re-)read them and don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

chillwaves 10y ago

The person you are responding to means to say that they are unhappy with being called on sexist/racist behavior and can't we just go back to the good old days where white male dominance was the cultural norm?

mzw_mzw 10y ago
Please don't use racist language on HN.

WalterBright 10y ago

> Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Scott Adams has some interesting commentary on this: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotiz...

colemickens 10y ago
"Trump has never mentioned race beyond pointing how how many African-Americans and Latinos support him. Ask your anti-Trumper to offer evidence otherwise. Then point out…" Do people actually buy this absolute bullshit? Just unbelievable. Good one. I guess he hasn't called migrants from Mexico rapists? I guess his discussion of the judge's race and nationality wasn't racist either? yeah? And yes, separating out his xenophobia and religious discrimination against Muslims is much better than lumping that in with his other racist speech. Now I'm dying to support him. His fellow GOPers are calling him a racist and yet somehow I'm expected to just ignore reality? Scott Adams is really a piece of work in this blog post of mental gymnastics. The little pity party he throws for himself at the bottom is a nice touch. God forbid someone hold those voting for fascists accountable. It's almost like minorities and LGBT folk have more at stake or something.
- ps4fanboy 10y ago
  I would hardly call pointing out the judges membership in La Raza a latino supremacist group racist?
Frondo 10y ago
Scott Adams isn't very smart, I don't think. His blog posts and essays are, far more often than not, really surprisingly shallow. Regarding Donald Trump's racism, this is how he can be racist without saying "black people are stupid and smelly" on national TV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
- WalterBright 10y ago
  In general, I like to read viewpoints that are different than mine, it's challenging. Listening to people who agree with me is boring. Dog whistle politics is certainly pervasive in politics on all sides, and it is an important thing for people to recognize.
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  - Frondo 10y ago
    Yeah, me too. I just like it when the writers are at least a little insightful. I never get that sense from Scott Adams. It reminds me a little of being back in high school when I read his stuff, a few decades ago, when my pals and I were starting to, tentatively and sloppily, feel out bigger philosophical ideas about the world.
drumdance 10y ago
The irony of that post is it doesn't use any of the persuasion tricks he talks about. I almost wonder if it was meant as a parody.

MajorLOL 10y ago

You couldn't have intentionally done a better job of proving my point. I make a political statement. The first response is; Pivot target away from me and to a straw man (Trump & GOP). Label the straw men with your narrative of *ist and begin the appeal to common sense fallacy. You also triggered me by changing the conversation away from liberal attack methods and bringing up LGBT issues.

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colemickens 10y ago
So if you're not defending Trump or your support of Trump then what is your point? You just want to support a sexist, racist and bigot without having to be held accountable for it? And the shitty, completely out-of-the-blue joke about triggering at the end. Nice that you want to allude to blanket dismissal of social causes just because I brought up LGBT issues. The only way you could be a bigger cliche is if you called me an "SJW" and spit on the ground afterward. Grow up. I'm done with this pointless conversation. Happy Pride, asshole.
- DanBC 10y ago
  you can ignore or flag the obvious trolls.
- dang 10y ago
  Both of you have broken the HN guidelines. Please (re-)read them and don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html