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A liberal echo chamber? Have you not seen r/the_donald ?

by saboot 10y ago

broodbucket 10y ago
The_Donald is a /pol/-driven circlejerk that noone takes seriously, it is not comparable to the rest of the community.
robothampsters 10y ago
Reddit literally changed their algorithm for r/all to stop the_donald from showing up.
MajorLOL 10y ago
Have you not seen the problems with censorship in r/the_donald ? Reddit is the largest liberal echo chamber on the net, every character of it's content is actively moderated. It's exactly the point being made here - liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. So those of us who disagree are just bigoted against incessantly. Many of those in disagreement with liberal ideas just vote instead of debate because it's tiresome having people generalize and stereotype you ad nauseum.
- colemickens 10y ago
  >liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Or that the GOP hasn't consistently been fighting against LGBT rights for decades?
  - chillwaves 10y ago
    The person you are responding to means to say that they are unhappy with being called on sexist/racist behavior and can't we just go back to the good old days where white male dominance was the cultural norm?
    - mzw_mzw 10y ago
      Please don't use racist language on HN.
  - WalterBright 10y ago
    > Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Scott Adams has some interesting commentary on this: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotiz...
    - colemickens 10y ago
      "Trump has never mentioned race beyond pointing how how many African-Americans and Latinos support him. Ask your anti-Trumper to offer evidence otherwise. Then point out…" Do people actually buy this absolute bullshit? Just unbelievable. Good one. I guess he hasn't called migrants from Mexico rapists? I guess his discussion of the judge's race and nationality wasn't racist either? yeah? And yes, separating out his xenophobia and religious discrimination against Muslims is much better than lumping that in with his other racist speech. Now I'm dying to support him. His fellow GOPers are calling him a racist and yet somehow I'm expected to just ignore reality? Scott Adams is really a piece of work in this blog post of mental gymnastics. The little pity party he throws for himself at the bottom is a nice touch. God forbid someone hold those voting for fascists accountable. It's almost like minorities and LGBT folk have more at stake or something.
      - ps4fanboy 10y ago
        I would hardly call pointing out the judges membership in La Raza a latino supremacist group racist?
    - Frondo 10y ago
      Scott Adams isn't very smart, I don't think. His blog posts and essays are, far more often than not, really surprisingly shallow. Regarding Donald Trump's racism, this is how he can be racist without saying "black people are stupid and smelly" on national TV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
      - WalterBright 10y ago
  - MajorLOL 10y ago
    You couldn't have intentionally done a better job of proving my point. I make a political statement. The first response is; Pivot target away from me and to a straw man (Trump & GOP). Label the straw men with your narrative of *ist and begin the appeal to common sense fallacy. You also triggered me by changing the conversation away from liberal attack methods and bringing up LGBT issues.
    - deleted 10y ago
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    - colemickens 10y ago
      So if you're not defending Trump or your support of Trump then what is your point? You just want to support a sexist, racist and bigot without having to be held accountable for it? And the shitty, completely out-of-the-blue joke about triggering at the end. Nice that you want to allude to blanket dismissal of social causes just because I brought up LGBT issues. The only way you could be a bigger cliche is if you called me an "SJW" and spit on the ground afterward. Grow up. I'm done with this pointless conversation. Happy Pride, asshole.
      - DanBC 10y ago
        you can ignore or flag the obvious trolls.
      - dang 10y ago
        Both of you have broken the HN guidelines. Please (re-)read them and don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
- saboot 10y ago
  You are free to create your own subreddit, with your own moderation rules, with the exception of not brigading which seems very reasonable. There is no longer any central community on reddit (since /r/reddit.com was made inactive), speaking as if reddit is one voice is very strange to me.
piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago
@robothampsters wrote here: > Reddit literally changed their algorithm for r/all to stop the_donald from showing up. 2 minutes (!) after being posted his comment was already [dead]. Very interesting... I hope the only reason is that he didn't provide source for his claim. So there it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06/17/trumps-meme-brigade-took-over-reddit-now-reddit-is-trying-to-stop-them/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06... Let's check if this comment will become [dead] within a few minutes as well.
- deleted 10y ago
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- saboot 10y ago
  Yes, r/the_donald was regularly getting to the top of r/all before the change. However so was r/sweden with the anti-trump memes and r/enoughtrumpspam . So either let it be a trump-antitrump war or alter r/all to be something useful such as promoting posts that are exceptionally highly upvoted across all subreddits.
dang 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11978455 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11978455 and marked it off-topic.

A liberal echo chamber? Have you not seen r/the_donald ?

by saboot 10y ago

A liberal echo chamber? Have you not seen r/the_donald ?

broodbucket 10y ago

The_Donald is a /pol/-driven circlejerk that noone takes seriously, it is not comparable to the rest of the community.

robothampsters 10y ago

Reddit literally changed their algorithm for r/all to stop the_donald from showing up.

MajorLOL 10y ago

Have you not seen the problems with censorship in r/the_donald ? Reddit is the largest liberal echo chamber on the net, every character of it's content is actively moderated. It's exactly the point being made here - liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. So those of us who disagree are just bigoted against incessantly. Many of those in disagreement with liberal ideas just vote instead of debate because it's tiresome having people generalize and stereotype you ad nauseum.

colemickens 10y ago
>liberal strategy as been to define and label opposition as racist/sexist/*ist for a very long time now. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Or that the GOP hasn't consistently been fighting against LGBT rights for decades?
- chillwaves 10y ago
  The person you are responding to means to say that they are unhappy with being called on sexist/racist behavior and can't we just go back to the good old days where white male dominance was the cultural norm?
  - mzw_mzw 10y ago
    Please don't use racist language on HN.
- WalterBright 10y ago
  > Are you going to sit there with a straight face and claim that Donald Trump is not racist or sexist? Scott Adams has some interesting commentary on this: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotize-a-rabid-anti-trumper http://blog.dilbert.com/post/146157026376/how-to-un-hypnotiz...
  - colemickens 10y ago
    "Trump has never mentioned race beyond pointing how how many African-Americans and Latinos support him. Ask your anti-Trumper to offer evidence otherwise. Then point out…" Do people actually buy this absolute bullshit? Just unbelievable. Good one. I guess he hasn't called migrants from Mexico rapists? I guess his discussion of the judge's race and nationality wasn't racist either? yeah? And yes, separating out his xenophobia and religious discrimination against Muslims is much better than lumping that in with his other racist speech. Now I'm dying to support him. His fellow GOPers are calling him a racist and yet somehow I'm expected to just ignore reality? Scott Adams is really a piece of work in this blog post of mental gymnastics. The little pity party he throws for himself at the bottom is a nice touch. God forbid someone hold those voting for fascists accountable. It's almost like minorities and LGBT folk have more at stake or something.
    - ps4fanboy 10y ago
      I would hardly call pointing out the judges membership in La Raza a latino supremacist group racist?
  - Frondo 10y ago
    Scott Adams isn't very smart, I don't think. His blog posts and essays are, far more often than not, really surprisingly shallow. Regarding Donald Trump's racism, this is how he can be racist without saying "black people are stupid and smelly" on national TV: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog-whistle_politics
    - WalterBright 10y ago
- MajorLOL 10y ago
  You couldn't have intentionally done a better job of proving my point. I make a political statement. The first response is; Pivot target away from me and to a straw man (Trump & GOP). Label the straw men with your narrative of *ist and begin the appeal to common sense fallacy. You also triggered me by changing the conversation away from liberal attack methods and bringing up LGBT issues.
  - deleted 10y ago
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  - colemickens 10y ago
    So if you're not defending Trump or your support of Trump then what is your point? You just want to support a sexist, racist and bigot without having to be held accountable for it? And the shitty, completely out-of-the-blue joke about triggering at the end. Nice that you want to allude to blanket dismissal of social causes just because I brought up LGBT issues. The only way you could be a bigger cliche is if you called me an "SJW" and spit on the ground afterward. Grow up. I'm done with this pointless conversation. Happy Pride, asshole.
    - DanBC 10y ago
      you can ignore or flag the obvious trolls.
    - dang 10y ago
      Both of you have broken the HN guidelines. Please (re-)read them and don't do that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html
saboot 10y ago
You are free to create your own subreddit, with your own moderation rules, with the exception of not brigading which seems very reasonable. There is no longer any central community on reddit (since /r/reddit.com was made inactive), speaking as if reddit is one voice is very strange to me.

piotrjurkiewicz 10y ago

@robothampsters wrote here: > Reddit literally changed their algorithm for r/all to stop the_donald from showing up. 2 minutes (!) after being posted his comment was already [dead]. Very interesting... I hope the only reason is that he didn't provide source for his claim. So there it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06/17/trumps-meme-brigade-took-over-reddit-now-reddit-is-trying-to-stop-them/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/06... Let's check if this comment will become [dead] within a few minutes as well.

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saboot 10y ago
Yes, r/the_donald was regularly getting to the top of r/all before the change. However so was r/sweden with the anti-trump memes and r/enoughtrumpspam . So either let it be a trump-antitrump war or alter r/all to be something useful such as promoting posts that are exceptionally highly upvoted across all subreddits.

dang 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11978455 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11978455 and marked it off-topic.