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That first paragraph... What if you would replace 'the west' with 'the islam'? Let's replace 'terrorist organizations' with 'organizations with weapons'. Bear w
by rahkiin 10y ago
That first paragraph... What if you would replace 'the west' with 'the islam'? Let's replace 'terrorist organizations' with 'organizations with weapons'. Bear with me.
Then it essentially says google, facebook etc are used by military for recruitment for fighting with violence against an opposing view (sorry for my english). Isn't that what western countries do as well?
What I mean to say, the difference is very hard to make. Essentially you are removing any content that opposes your (whoever pulls the string) political or religious views. And with the popularity of YT, FB and Twitter, I think that is worth thinking about.
What happens if there is a conflict within a western country, whose side are those sites on?
I want to note, for anyone reading this, I do absolutely not condone any actions by any terrorist organizations nor their recruitment methods, at all, and I happily have not seen any of thise horrible videos. I just don't like the western hypocricy.
- putaside 10y agoIt is not about attacking/opposing political views, it is about attacking/opposing hate speech and inciting violence. If hate speech also happens to be a political view, then too bad. Yes, Western countries are also guilty of propaganda. But they are a bit more subtle about it and do not go over the edge as often. That edge is: (inciting) violence. This could be qualified as extremist content (if one were to be as objective as possible): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCUeItvovs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNCUeItvovs And I would be ok if that were removed.
- rahkiin 10y agoI do agree the west is more subtle. But aren't some westerners calling up 'getting rid of the islam/muslims' and that sorts? When does such qualify as hate speech? I just don't know :(
- cpncrunch 10y agoWell, Trump isn't saying we should kill them, only deport them. I think that is objectionable, but I don't think it meets the criteria for hate speech. There is obviously a line, and Trump hasn't quite crossed it yet.
- abtinf 10y agoPlease cite a video where Trump says the US should deport anyone other than illegal aliens.
- cpncrunch 10y agoSorry, I meant prevent immigration of muslims.
- TrickzOnU 10y agoNo, trump has not said that -- but plenty of conservative commentators in the US have said that. It will be interesting whether those videos get banned too.
- iofj 10y agoProblem of course is that muslim countries, and plenty of muslims, are extremely intolerant of things like freedom of religion, opinion, and are in favor of things like killing gays and the like ? Tolerating intolerant ideologies is not good, it is not social, it does not "fight racism". It it quite the opposite of that.