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I expressed my opinion that GP's argument was poor and explained why. How is that belittling?!

by scribu 10y ago

reitanqild 10y ago
You dismissed it as strawman although while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel.
- tremon 10y ago
  It's what people have been made to feel by twenty years of UKIP (a.o.) anti-EU posturing. Pointing out that that "feeling" is based on lies is not any more belittling than using lies to win an argument is belittling your opponent.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    I guess you are giving UKIP too much credit here. We have the same here with no UKIP. Politicians have tried twice to get Norwegians into EU using dubious arguments and people mobilized broadly twice to avoid it. Edit: removed "all kinds of" in font of dubious to be less hyperbolic.
    - tremon 10y ago
      The correct response to dubious arguments from either side is truthfulness, not even more emotive lies.
      - reitanqild 10y ago
        ? In hindsight it turns out the "No"-side was right and had been speaking the truth: staying out of the EU was not a problem and has been advantageous.
        tremon 10y ago
        This whole thread started because of this assertion: Why should any people have a desire to be a part of a political organization over which they have zero control, but must pay taxes to? You defended this with: while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel. I object to your assertion that lies should stand unchallenged just because they illustrate what people feel, especially when it is lies that informed their feelings in the first place. I don't care enough about the Norway situation to involve myself in that. Another commenter posted http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ , I suggest you take a look at that page and count how many of those myths originated in English "newspapers".

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I expressed my opinion that GP's argument was poor and explained why. How is that belittling?!

by scribu 10y ago

I expressed my opinion that GP's argument was poor and explained why. How is that belittling?!

reitanqild 10y ago
You dismissed it as strawman although while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel.
- tremon 10y ago
  It's what people have been made to feel by twenty years of UKIP (a.o.) anti-EU posturing. Pointing out that that "feeling" is based on lies is not any more belittling than using lies to win an argument is belittling your opponent.
  - reitanqild 10y ago
    I guess you are giving UKIP too much credit here. We have the same here with no UKIP. Politicians have tried twice to get Norwegians into EU using dubious arguments and people mobilized broadly twice to avoid it. Edit: removed "all kinds of" in font of dubious to be less hyperbolic.
    - tremon 10y ago
      The correct response to dubious arguments from either side is truthfulness, not even more emotive lies.
      - reitanqild 10y ago
        ? In hindsight it turns out the "No"-side was right and had been speaking the truth: staying out of the EU was not a problem and has been advantageous.
        tremon 10y ago
        This whole thread started because of this assertion: Why should any people have a desire to be a part of a political organization over which they have zero control, but must pay taxes to? You defended this with: while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel. I object to your assertion that lies should stand unchallenged just because they illustrate what people feel, especially when it is lies that informed their feelings in the first place. I don't care enough about the Norway situation to involve myself in that. Another commenter posted http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ , I suggest you take a look at that page and count how many of those myths originated in English "newspapers".