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>>>> Why should any people have a desire to be a part of a political organization over which they have zero control, but must pay taxes to? >> That's called a
by reitanqild 10y ago
>>>> Why should any people have a desire to be a part of a political organization over which they have zero control, but must pay taxes to?
>> That's called a strawman argument. Of course no one would want to be part of such an org, if that was all there was to it.
And here I think you repeat the mistake discussed here: belittling people who don't agree with you.
- tremon 10y agoNo, I'm not belittling people because they disagree. I'm belittling people because they employ misdirection to "win" an argument.
- scribu 10y agoI expressed my opinion that GP's argument was poor and explained why. How is that belittling?!
- reitanqild 10y agoYou dismissed it as strawman although while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel.
- tremon 10y agoIt's what people have been made to feel by twenty years of UKIP (a.o.) anti-EU posturing. Pointing out that that "feeling" is based on lies is not any more belittling than using lies to win an argument is belittling your opponent.
- reitanqild 10y agoI guess you are giving UKIP too much credit here. We have the same here with no UKIP. Politicians have tried twice to get Norwegians into EU using dubious arguments and people mobilized broadly twice to avoid it. Edit: removed "all kinds of" in font of dubious to be less hyperbolic.
- tremon 10y agoThe correct response to dubious arguments from either side is truthfulness, not even more emotive lies.
- reitanqild 10y ago? In hindsight it turns out the "No"-side was right and had been speaking the truth: staying out of the EU was not a problem and has been advantageous.
- tremon 10y agoThis whole thread started because of this assertion: Why should any people have a desire to be a part of a political organization over which they have zero control, but must pay taxes to? You defended this with: while not mathematically correct this is what lots of people feel. I object to your assertion that lies should stand unchallenged just because they illustrate what people feel, especially when it is lies that informed their feelings in the first place. I don't care enough about the Norway situation to involve myself in that. Another commenter posted http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/euromyths-a-z-index/ , I suggest you take a look at that page and count how many of those myths originated in English "newspapers".
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