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I don't think the author is particularly against infinite scrolling. He provides a great checklist of do's and don'ts, and is basically calling you out if your

by unabst 10y ago

I don't think the author is particularly against infinite scrolling. He provides a great checklist of do's and don'ts, and is basically calling you out if your page sucks. If your page eats memory, needs finer analytics, and doesn't comply with bookmarking and back button functionality, don't do it. But good infinite scroll pages solve this. Choice paralysis and scrollbar issues seems less relevant, because having 100 pages can be just as paralyzing and the scrollbar is a non-issue with wheels and touch. As for the last point he makes, being harder to use, the entire list applies to any paginated page also. Google Images is a good infinite scroll page. Content opens inline, you're engaged in a visually seeking task where anything beyond looking would be distracting, and the page does tap-off (cop out?) at a certain point so that it isn't too infinite. Though you can "load more", at that point you are given the opportunity to rethink your search criteria, and that speed bump is practical.

egypturnash 10y ago
> and the scrollbar is a non-issue with wheels and touch. Yes, let's just completely dismiss the concerns of people whose preferred way to move up and down in a web page is to grab the slider with their mouse or stylus. Everyone is perfectly able to curl their fingers around a little pod that makes them put their wrist into a position that can cause strain on the tendons and make lost of tiny, precise movements with it. Nobody has any RSI issues. - signed, a lady who uses her Wacom tablet instead of a mouse for all of her desktop computing after her index finger decided it refused to double-click without pain.
- kkarakk 10y ago
  tbf you can either design for everyone or you can be at the cutting edge of adoptability and "coolness" you don't see snapchat caring about folk without arms for example- useability concerns depend on the service you're building.
- unabst 10y ago
  All I stated was the scrollbar is a non-issue with wheels and touch. And it isn't. I sympathize with any health issues, but to be fair, if we were discussing accessibility then RSI is just the beginning. Also, maybe you're not able to use it, but most Wacom pens have options to allow scrolling by just clicking and dragging, making the scrollbar a non-issue. The scrollbar has never been the most convenient of interfaces.
  - adambsilver 10y ago
    It's not just using the scrollbar to scroll. The size of the scroll bar indicates the length of the page, something which helps the user.
    - unabst 10y ago
      Right. Except either way, the length of the page hardly ever corresponds to the amount of content. With pagination we are left counting the O's in goolge for example.

by unabst 10y ago

egypturnash 10y ago

> and the scrollbar is a non-issue with wheels and touch. Yes, let's just completely dismiss the concerns of people whose preferred way to move up and down in a web page is to grab the slider with their mouse or stylus. Everyone is perfectly able to curl their fingers around a little pod that makes them put their wrist into a position that can cause strain on the tendons and make lost of tiny, precise movements with it. Nobody has any RSI issues. - signed, a lady who uses her Wacom tablet instead of a mouse for all of her desktop computing after her index finger decided it refused to double-click without pain.

kkarakk 10y ago
tbf you can either design for everyone or you can be at the cutting edge of adoptability and "coolness" you don't see snapchat caring about folk without arms for example- useability concerns depend on the service you're building.
unabst 10y ago
All I stated was the scrollbar is a non-issue with wheels and touch. And it isn't. I sympathize with any health issues, but to be fair, if we were discussing accessibility then RSI is just the beginning. Also, maybe you're not able to use it, but most Wacom pens have options to allow scrolling by just clicking and dragging, making the scrollbar a non-issue. The scrollbar has never been the most convenient of interfaces.
- adambsilver 10y ago
  It's not just using the scrollbar to scroll. The size of the scroll bar indicates the length of the page, something which helps the user.
  - unabst 10y ago
    Right. Except either way, the length of the page hardly ever corresponds to the amount of content. With pagination we are left counting the O's in goolge for example.