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The main failure is of established intellectual organizations that have been unable to stop the erosion of their provably correct positions by those who want to

by orev 10y ago

The main failure is of established intellectual organizations that have been unable to stop the erosion of their provably correct positions by those who want to undermine them for their own personal gain. It doesn't prove those institutions are wrong, just that all those things people that were so crazy that no one would take them seriously actually were taken seriously but a certain group of people. This didn't happen overnight -- it's been a concerted effort by certain interests for a long time.

rayiner 10y ago
I'm sorry, I missed the paper that proved that globalization and dilution of voting power were the "correct positions."
mc32 10y ago
One unrecognized issue by most of the west but recognized in places like Russia, Japan, SKorea, China, is while they may promote equality and universal values, they are careful not to subvert their own people. That is the gain for others is not at the expense of their working class. They typically extoll thru working class --even if sometimes, they betray them. But at least they make an effort rather than vilify and denigrate them as illiterate, lumpen masses of bigoted people who deserve being swept aside by a tide of workers willing to undercut them because however underpaid the newcomers are, they are much better off than remaining back home.
- eli_gottlieb 10y ago
  >One unrecognized issue by most of the west but recognized in places like Russia, Japan, SKorea, China, is while they may promote equality and universal values, they are careful not to subvert their own people. Then how come Russia and China keep their working classes poor, Japan and South Korea rabidly overwork people, and Japan has allowed three Lost Decades?
  - mc32 10y ago
    Among other reasons, from my experience, they are homogenous enough that failures are attributed to character, rather than someone else taking something from them. If I were to give a homeless person money in Asia, many people would frown at it because they ask, why do you support a good for nothing, they don't deserve it, they are able bodied, they can get a job, if they were so inclined. That's the attitude I've come across.
    - mafribe 10y ago
      they are homogenous enough that failures are attributed to character, rather than ... This is a though-provoking sentence.

by orev 10y ago

rayiner 10y ago

I'm sorry, I missed the paper that proved that globalization and dilution of voting power were the "correct positions."

mc32 10y ago

One unrecognized issue by most of the west but recognized in places like Russia, Japan, SKorea, China, is while they may promote equality and universal values, they are careful not to subvert their own people. That is the gain for others is not at the expense of their working class. They typically extoll thru working class --even if sometimes, they betray them. But at least they make an effort rather than vilify and denigrate them as illiterate, lumpen masses of bigoted people who deserve being swept aside by a tide of workers willing to undercut them because however underpaid the newcomers are, they are much better off than remaining back home.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago
>One unrecognized issue by most of the west but recognized in places like Russia, Japan, SKorea, China, is while they may promote equality and universal values, they are careful not to subvert their own people. Then how come Russia and China keep their working classes poor, Japan and South Korea rabidly overwork people, and Japan has allowed three Lost Decades?
- mc32 10y ago
  Among other reasons, from my experience, they are homogenous enough that failures are attributed to character, rather than someone else taking something from them. If I were to give a homeless person money in Asia, many people would frown at it because they ask, why do you support a good for nothing, they don't deserve it, they are able bodied, they can get a job, if they were so inclined. That's the attitude I've come across.
  - mafribe 10y ago
    they are homogenous enough that failures are attributed to character, rather than ... This is a though-provoking sentence.