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You make it sound as if we are going to run out of work? We can always increase the level of education then have more research scientists and engineers, for ex
by melling 10y ago
You make it sound as if we are going to run out of work? We can always increase the level of education then have more research scientists and engineers, for example. Imagine if we did 10x the amount of R&D.
- superuser2 10y ago>We can always increase the level of education then have more research scientists and engineers Flat wrong, unless you convince the owners of capital that that's the most prudent investment. It's already extremely difficult to get hired as a research scientist, even with a big-name PhD.
- nostrademons 10y agoThen what the highly trained research scientists and engineers need to do is apply their scientific training to fleecing rich people of their money. Which is actually what is happening, and has been happening for the last 2 decades with the entry of a large number of physics, math, and CS Ph.Ds into hedge funds and tech entrepreneurship. Stage 1 is a massive wealth transfer from dumb old money built on relationships to smart new money built on technology. Stage 2 is increased funding for STEM research & applications, as the new money diverts capital into their interests. Stage 2 takes a generation or so - it doesn't happen until the new money feels secure enough in their wealth that they can divert attention to becoming powerful. But we've seen the beginnings of it already, with Tesla, SpaceX, Blue Origin, Calico, Google X, YC Research, Breakthrough Starshot, and the Gates Foundation diverting some of that money that was redirected into scientifically-trained hands back to actual scientists.
- winstonewert 10y agoDoes everyone have the capacity to become a research scientist or engineer with enough training? I think we'll have to find some creative ways to use low-skilled labor.
- melling 10y agono one said everyone. no one even suggested anything close to that.
- winstonewert 10y agoWhat you said was that it could solve the problem of running out of work for people. This only works as a solution if everyone can be trained to that R&D.
- melling 10y agoNo, I didn't say that. I said we could train a lot more people. Do you think 10% of the world population currently works in R&D? My proposal was to greatly increase the number.
- winstonewert 10y agoOk, I missed the phrase, "for example", in your comment causing me to misinterpet. My apologies.
- BatFastard 10y ago10x R&D sounds great, but as you throw more money towards a subject, you dont get more good research, you get more crap you have to wade thru. I remember when there was virtually unlimited money towards aid research, they quickly ran out of anything resembling a remotely qualify researcher very quickly.