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Agreed. I'm a broke developer who would love nothing more than a small living stipend to work on my own projects and contribute to open source. If I had just en

Agreed. I'm a broke developer who would love nothing more than a small living stipend to work on my own projects and contribute to open source. If I had just enough to get by and be able to code all day I would be so happy.

rogerdpack 10y ago
Be careful, though, sometimes "code all day" is actually a form of addiction and...in the end of it all...you'll end up possibly unhappy, take it from me :| To test this hypothesis, try not coding for a couple weeks, and avoiding other possibly addictive habits. See if you go through a "withdrawal" as it were...best of luck to you and us both!
jlg23 10y ago
So basically you are one who would benefit from a basic income. Why is a "living stipend to work on [your] own projects" better than a basic income which too would allow you to work on your own projects?
- logicallee 10y ago
  I hope with a little thought, you can come to see the difference between formally investing in a startup which is trying to get off the ground, and handing someone an income no questions asked... To put it in simple terms, you get what you pay for. If you invest in someone's startups, they'll deliver a startup (or fail); if you invest in someone's lifestyle, they'll deliver a lifestyle (or fail). It's what makes a broke college student asking their parents for some money different from a homeless person who has just spent the money he had left on alcohol, asking for some money. I am probably running a high risk of being misinterpreted. When a programmer becomes homeless and needs money, then that money is different from when someone who got out of prison for beating someone up has no money. basic income makes it sound like the latter; whereas building a business is a lot more like the former. you can disagree, but please do so eloquently.
  - jlg23 10y ago
    > To put it in simple terms, you get what you pay for. If you invest in someone's startups, they'll deliver a startup (or fail); if you invest in someone's lifestyle, they'll deliver a lifestyle (or fail). Whether this is true or not is exactly what needs to be figured out. So far, this is just a prejudice. > When a programmer becomes homeless and needs money, then that money is different from when someone who got out of prison for beating someone up has no money. And if that person just out of prison was a programmer? Would that change something? What exactly makes a programmer better than anyone who served his time and deserves a chance? > I hope with a little thought [...] you can disagree, but please do so eloquently Sorry, neither thinking nor eloquence are my forte. But I did indeed work with homeless people and ex-convicts. Try it and you might see they are people too.
    - logicallee 10y ago
      one of the great business discoveries of the past few hundred years is that people respond to incentives. I won't respond to the rest of your comments.

rogerdpack 10y ago

Be careful, though, sometimes "code all day" is actually a form of addiction and...in the end of it all...you'll end up possibly unhappy, take it from me :| To test this hypothesis, try not coding for a couple weeks, and avoiding other possibly addictive habits. See if you go through a "withdrawal" as it were...best of luck to you and us both!

jlg23 10y ago

So basically you are one who would benefit from a basic income. Why is a "living stipend to work on [your] own projects" better than a basic income which too would allow you to work on your own projects?

logicallee 10y ago
I hope with a little thought, you can come to see the difference between formally investing in a startup which is trying to get off the ground, and handing someone an income no questions asked... To put it in simple terms, you get what you pay for. If you invest in someone's startups, they'll deliver a startup (or fail); if you invest in someone's lifestyle, they'll deliver a lifestyle (or fail). It's what makes a broke college student asking their parents for some money different from a homeless person who has just spent the money he had left on alcohol, asking for some money. I am probably running a high risk of being misinterpreted. When a programmer becomes homeless and needs money, then that money is different from when someone who got out of prison for beating someone up has no money. basic income makes it sound like the latter; whereas building a business is a lot more like the former. you can disagree, but please do so eloquently.
- jlg23 10y ago
  > To put it in simple terms, you get what you pay for. If you invest in someone's startups, they'll deliver a startup (or fail); if you invest in someone's lifestyle, they'll deliver a lifestyle (or fail). Whether this is true or not is exactly what needs to be figured out. So far, this is just a prejudice. > When a programmer becomes homeless and needs money, then that money is different from when someone who got out of prison for beating someone up has no money. And if that person just out of prison was a programmer? Would that change something? What exactly makes a programmer better than anyone who served his time and deserves a chance? > I hope with a little thought [...] you can disagree, but please do so eloquently Sorry, neither thinking nor eloquence are my forte. But I did indeed work with homeless people and ex-convicts. Try it and you might see they are people too.
  - logicallee 10y ago
    one of the great business discoveries of the past few hundred years is that people respond to incentives. I won't respond to the rest of your comments.