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This is exactly how secession should work. Clearly the Scots and the English and Welsh have different opinions on being part of the EU. It is tyrannical for e

This is exactly how secession should work. Clearly the Scots and the English and Welsh have different opinions on being part of the EU. It is tyrannical for either group to force their preference on the others. So let Scotland secede and join the EU. Problem solved, human freedom and happiness maximized. See 'Secession: The Reasonable Option Everyone Resists' by Tom Woods: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXOEdvfMeIY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXOEdvfMeIY

BrutallyHonest 10y ago
It would be more fair to hold a referendum in England whether it should be united with Scotland. Would be more productive for Scotland's independence.
- simonswords82 10y ago
  How so?
  - BrutallyHonest 10y ago
    Politically whiny, want the independence but keep the £, have a lot of preferences already etc.
    - nolok 10y ago
      > Politically whiny, want the independence but keep the access to free market, have a lot of preferences already etc. So .. According to you other european countries should get a referendum about UK being in the EU
- bArray 10y ago
  I know of a lot of British people who do not want Scotland to be part of the UK. They get more funding per head, their own government and then complain they are unfairly treated.
  - amouat 10y ago
    Unfairly treated? You mean like being dragged out of a union against our political will?
    - jwdunne 10y ago
      Personally, I think you do deserve a second referendum. The remain/leave map shows a clear border. Northumberland votes out. North of that, its all remain. The biggest thing to me is that many in the leave camp used very similar arguments against the leave camp in the Scottish indy ref. That and the EU/better together camp said Scotland wouldn't be part of the EU if they left and should therefore stay. Note: from Manchester. Voted remain. Don't see the SNP as the national threat they're portrayed to be.
      - bArray 10y ago
        "Personally, I think you do deserve a second referendum. The remain/leave map shows a clear border. Northumberland votes out. North of that, its all remain." It's tough luck. You can't threaten to quit every time things don't work out for you. "The biggest thing to me is that many in the leave camp used very similar arguments against the leave camp in the Scottish indy ref." I don't think anybody envisioned we would actually leave. "That and the EU/better together camp said Scotland wouldn't be part of the EU if they left and should therefore stay." It's not entirely clear that Scotland will be able to join the EU anyway. There's a long waiting list and large payment required. "Note: from Manchester. Voted remain. Don't see the SNP as the national threat they're portrayed to be." I also voted remain. I'm not afraid of the threat of Scotland to the rest of the UK, I'm afraid of Scotland's threat to itself.
    - bArray 10y ago
      I voted remain also, it's just tough luck. What will be interesting now is whether Scotland really has the economy to survive on their own in the EU. Other smaller Countries have not yet been successful.
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BrutallyHonest 10y ago

It would be more fair to hold a referendum in England whether it should be united with Scotland. Would be more productive for Scotland's independence.

simonswords82 10y ago
How so?
- BrutallyHonest 10y ago
  Politically whiny, want the independence but keep the £, have a lot of preferences already etc.
  - nolok 10y ago
    > Politically whiny, want the independence but keep the access to free market, have a lot of preferences already etc. So .. According to you other european countries should get a referendum about UK being in the EU
bArray 10y ago
I know of a lot of British people who do not want Scotland to be part of the UK. They get more funding per head, their own government and then complain they are unfairly treated.
- amouat 10y ago
  Unfairly treated? You mean like being dragged out of a union against our political will?
  - jwdunne 10y ago
    Personally, I think you do deserve a second referendum. The remain/leave map shows a clear border. Northumberland votes out. North of that, its all remain. The biggest thing to me is that many in the leave camp used very similar arguments against the leave camp in the Scottish indy ref. That and the EU/better together camp said Scotland wouldn't be part of the EU if they left and should therefore stay. Note: from Manchester. Voted remain. Don't see the SNP as the national threat they're portrayed to be.
    - bArray 10y ago
      "Personally, I think you do deserve a second referendum. The remain/leave map shows a clear border. Northumberland votes out. North of that, its all remain." It's tough luck. You can't threaten to quit every time things don't work out for you. "The biggest thing to me is that many in the leave camp used very similar arguments against the leave camp in the Scottish indy ref." I don't think anybody envisioned we would actually leave. "That and the EU/better together camp said Scotland wouldn't be part of the EU if they left and should therefore stay." It's not entirely clear that Scotland will be able to join the EU anyway. There's a long waiting list and large payment required. "Note: from Manchester. Voted remain. Don't see the SNP as the national threat they're portrayed to be." I also voted remain. I'm not afraid of the threat of Scotland to the rest of the UK, I'm afraid of Scotland's threat to itself.
  - bArray 10y ago
    I voted remain also, it's just tough luck. What will be interesting now is whether Scotland really has the economy to survive on their own in the EU. Other smaller Countries have not yet been successful.
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago
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