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Ask a poor Greek who dutifully paid their taxes now struggling on 80 euros a week who can't get medicines if there's anything wrong with the EU. The EU's sheer

Ask a poor Greek who dutifully paid their taxes now struggling on 80 euros a week who can't get medicines if there's anything wrong with the EU. The EU's sheer brutality towards Greece is one of the reasons I abstained. They didn't have a democratic mandate to do that and the institution itself is being gradually changed in order to remove democratic oversight (that's one of the reasons they could be so fucking brutal). More real power exists in the ECB and EU commission now and the parliament is more and more toothless. That's wrong on multiple levels. I'm pretty sure the British outside of the cities are rationally voting to reduce competition in the labour market. Just ask the "in" campaign: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12181385/Wages-for-British-workers-will-rise-in-the-event-of-a-Brexit-head-of-in-campaign-says.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/1218... If the EU keeps preaching austerity, labor market suppression and other neoliberal ideas I expect it to dissolve in a decade or two.

tim333 10y ago
Some of the brits may be rationally voting to reduce competition in the labour market but it's dubious that it'll work to raise wages. There is the counterforce of companies locating elsewhere to avoid tariff uncertainties. The main problem in Greece and the UK rural areas are the dumb austerity policies.
scrollaway 10y ago
As someone living in greece, I'm really tired of the country being used as a toy example for EU failures. Greece's failures are mainly self-inflicted and run far deeper than the handling economic crisis. It's a complex subject, not one you can cheapen by emotion crying out "Look at the poor greek who cannot afford medication". Seriously...
prodmerc 10y ago
Then look at all the greeks who didn't pay their taxes and the politicians who flat out lied to get the Euro, then pocketed billions while the country slowly went over the edge... It's nothing like the UK. Although maybe letting them out of the Euro would be a good thing, but apparently there's no mechanism for that.

tim333 10y ago

Some of the brits may be rationally voting to reduce competition in the labour market but it's dubious that it'll work to raise wages. There is the counterforce of companies locating elsewhere to avoid tariff uncertainties. The main problem in Greece and the UK rural areas are the dumb austerity policies.

scrollaway 10y ago

As someone living in greece, I'm really tired of the country being used as a toy example for EU failures. Greece's failures are mainly self-inflicted and run far deeper than the handling economic crisis. It's a complex subject, not one you can cheapen by emotion crying out "Look at the poor greek who cannot afford medication". Seriously...

prodmerc 10y ago

Then look at all the greeks who didn't pay their taxes and the politicians who flat out lied to get the Euro, then pocketed billions while the country slowly went over the edge... It's nothing like the UK. Although maybe letting them out of the Euro would be a good thing, but apparently there's no mechanism for that.