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When country a calls for diameter x and country b for a different diameter y then you cannot sell your thing in both countries. The EU would then come and say t

by arrrg 10y ago

When country a calls for diameter x and country b for a different diameter y then you cannot sell your thing in both countries. The EU would then come and say that the actual rule is diameter z, problem solved. Your view on this is hopelessly naive and really anti-intellectual and dishonest.

pdonis 10y ago
> When country a calls for diameter x and country b for a different diameter y then you cannot sell your thing in both countries. You're still assuming that countries have to set standards. Many standards are not set by countries at all; they are set by markets, by buyers and sellers realizing that a common standard is in both their interests and agreeing on one. (You are also assuming that it is always a good thing for the same product to be sold in both countries--that there can't possibly be good reasons why two different diameters might be used in different places. If standards are left to markets--i.e., to the people who are actually directly affected by what is bought and sold--then those kinds of issues take care of themselves.) Your view on this is hopelessly blinded by your assumptions.
- arrrg 10y ago
  That's just not the world we live in. Contradictory regulations exist in places with no unifying framework and create trade barriers. That's a reality and no wishing for market solutions can solve that. You are living in a fantasy world.
  - pdonis 10y ago
    > That's just not the world we live in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Electrical_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Electrical_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_In... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSF_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSF_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_trade_certification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_trade_certification What are these? They are just a few examples of private organizations that develop, maintain, and enforce unified standards for products, within the US and worldwide. There are many, many others. > You are living in a fantasy world. No, you are, with your belief that the only way to get unified standards--assuming that we are dealing with something that needs them--is for governments to set them. Governments can set standards, yes. But they are not the only way to set them. IMO they are usually the worst way to set them, because government officials have the least stake of all parties involved in making the standards the best ones possible.

by arrrg 10y ago

pdonis 10y ago

> When country a calls for diameter x and country b for a different diameter y then you cannot sell your thing in both countries. You're still assuming that countries have to set standards. Many standards are not set by countries at all; they are set by markets, by buyers and sellers realizing that a common standard is in both their interests and agreeing on one. (You are also assuming that it is always a good thing for the same product to be sold in both countries--that there can't possibly be good reasons why two different diameters might be used in different places. If standards are left to markets--i.e., to the people who are actually directly affected by what is bought and sold--then those kinds of issues take care of themselves.) Your view on this is hopelessly blinded by your assumptions.

arrrg 10y ago
That's just not the world we live in. Contradictory regulations exist in places with no unifying framework and create trade barriers. That's a reality and no wishing for market solutions can solve that. You are living in a fantasy world.
- pdonis 10y ago
  > That's just not the world we live in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Electrical_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Electrical_Code https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_Institute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_National_Standards_In... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSF_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSF_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_trade_certification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_trade_certification What are these? They are just a few examples of private organizations that develop, maintain, and enforce unified standards for products, within the US and worldwide. There are many, many others. > You are living in a fantasy world. No, you are, with your belief that the only way to get unified standards--assuming that we are dealing with something that needs them--is for governments to set them. Governments can set standards, yes. But they are not the only way to set them. IMO they are usually the worst way to set them, because government officials have the least stake of all parties involved in making the standards the best ones possible.