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It's not going to be a matter of punishment. This almost sets negotiation back to square one. There are A LOT of effects in this that needs to be taken into acc

It's not going to be a matter of punishment. This almost sets negotiation back to square one. There are A LOT of effects in this that needs to be taken into account. Anything that's reciprocal currently (e.g. access to healthcare for Britons in Spain and for Spaniards in UK) is going to evaporate and will need to be reevaluated. Now, the UK has clearly stated they don't like some things like free movement of people. The point of getting out of the EU is not to do a copy/paste of the current agreements and sign them in a week. The UK (not the EU) has decided to cancel everything and start from scratch because they don't feel like they could get to a comfortable situation inside the EU. Even with the best of intentions, negotiating this kind of complex inter-state treaties take years. And, understandably, there will be extra care and friction because the UK has already got out once. Meanwhile, all the benefits are not going to be present. I, sincerely, don't think we should think this in terms of "punishment", but if someone gets out of an agreement and immediately starts to renegotiate (more favourable) terms, it's reasonable to expect the negotiation to be hard...

mixedCase 10y ago
>Now, the UK has clearly stated they don't like some things like free movement of people. Non-european people coming in as economic inmigrants, to be more precise.
- kalleboo 10y ago
  I thought they were pretty heavily against EU migrants from poorer nations as well? At least that's been UKIP's position.
- ZeroGravitas 10y ago
  It's all a bit confused, but the rhetoric is basically against all immigrants, with eastern Europeans being one particularly targeted group in the context of Brexit. But it's complex. People were asked by the media which way they would vote and why. Asians were saying they'd been promised more immigration from their country by the Leave campaign, while other people were saying they'd vote Leave because there were too many Africans living in their street. The thought of Turkey joining, and letting in Syrian refugees was also in the mix. And one of the intellectual leaders of Leave has already stated he's confused why people think voting Leave will reduce immigration.

mixedCase 10y ago

>Now, the UK has clearly stated they don't like some things like free movement of people. Non-european people coming in as economic inmigrants, to be more precise.

kalleboo 10y ago
I thought they were pretty heavily against EU migrants from poorer nations as well? At least that's been UKIP's position.
ZeroGravitas 10y ago
It's all a bit confused, but the rhetoric is basically against all immigrants, with eastern Europeans being one particularly targeted group in the context of Brexit. But it's complex. People were asked by the media which way they would vote and why. Asians were saying they'd been promised more immigration from their country by the Leave campaign, while other people were saying they'd vote Leave because there were too many Africans living in their street. The thought of Turkey joining, and letting in Syrian refugees was also in the mix. And one of the intellectual leaders of Leave has already stated he's confused why people think voting Leave will reduce immigration.