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"it was created to prevent another world war and in that it has succeeded" You couldn't be more wrong here. If anything the creation of the EU makes war much m

"it was created to prevent another world war and in that it has succeeded" You couldn't be more wrong here. If anything the creation of the EU makes war much more likely, precisely because of the inevitability of its breakup. The UK is just the first to go, but many more countries will leave too, effectively finishing off the EU project. And with the end of the EU, comes the bitter divorce between European countries, which is fertile grounds for a new world war.

vonnik 10y ago
Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EU. Most EU citizens have never known war. Not knowing what the EU protects them from, they feel they have nothing to lose by leaving it. There is nothing "inevitable" about the breakup of the EU, just as there was nothing inevitable about the Brexit. These departures require massive efforts on the part of small, motivated groups, who rely on enormous falsehoods to draw the vote of ignorants. Nigel Farage is already backing away from Leave's promises on healthcare.
- kps 10y ago
  > Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EU. Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EEC (1957–1993), not the EU (1993–).
spoonie 10y ago
So NAFTA means Canada, the USA, and Mexico are more likely to go to war now?
cr1895 10y ago
Can you expand why the countries of the EU are so fundamentally incompatible that their breakup is inevitable (and, as you claim from the start)?
- bjourne 10y ago
  In the 90's, when the unification process between West and East Germany were ongoing, West Germany paid many billions to help the latter because its economy was tanked. In total, two trillion euros or so. The West Germans mostly didn't complain. A few years ago, they were asked to contribute a few billions to Greece's economy that also was (and is, I presume) completely wasted. Most Germans complained loudly and politicians like Angela Merkel made it a point not to give them more money than absolutely necessary. Why did they complain so much in Greece's but not East Germany's case? Think about that for some time then you see why the EU is doomed.

vonnik 10y ago

Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EU. Most EU citizens have never known war. Not knowing what the EU protects them from, they feel they have nothing to lose by leaving it. There is nothing "inevitable" about the breakup of the EU, just as there was nothing inevitable about the Brexit. These departures require massive efforts on the part of small, motivated groups, who rely on enormous falsehoods to draw the vote of ignorants. Nigel Farage is already backing away from Leave's promises on healthcare.

kps 10y ago
> Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EU. Europe's longest period of peace correlates with the existence of the EEC (1957–1993), not the EU (1993–).

spoonie 10y ago

So NAFTA means Canada, the USA, and Mexico are more likely to go to war now?

cr1895 10y ago

Can you expand why the countries of the EU are so fundamentally incompatible that their breakup is inevitable (and, as you claim from the start)?

bjourne 10y ago
In the 90's, when the unification process between West and East Germany were ongoing, West Germany paid many billions to help the latter because its economy was tanked. In total, two trillion euros or so. The West Germans mostly didn't complain. A few years ago, they were asked to contribute a few billions to Greece's economy that also was (and is, I presume) completely wasted. Most Germans complained loudly and politicians like Angela Merkel made it a point not to give them more money than absolutely necessary. Why did they complain so much in Greece's but not East Germany's case? Think about that for some time then you see why the EU is doomed.