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Half the people in the UK aren't racists and it doesn't make you look good claiming they are. It was actually part of the problem and why leave won, no-one list

Half the people in the UK aren't racists and it doesn't make you look good claiming they are. It was actually part of the problem and why leave won, no-one listened to their legitimate concerns and just kept sidelining a large chunk of the electorate by calling them racists. For most people it's not about racism and it's certainly not about colour (the most recent mass-migration from the EU are white anyway!). Citing an article which claims all leave voters are racist because of one comment one woman heard in the pub doesn't prove your case. EDIT: I've actually seen full on racism in Poland in Krakov, a chunk of the population were really proper, full on, out in the open, racists. Spat at our friend, started following us in the street, threatened in nightclubs. Again and again and again. Skinheads on every street. Proper racism is scary and disgusting and horrifying and frightening. The UK has nothing like the racism I've seen in other countries, we're very open, far more open than most of the EU.

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nix0n 10y ago
Currently in the USA we are seeing a wave of racist nationalist isolationism, so we tend to see these concepts as going together. It's always tempting to draw parallels between USA politics and UK politics since the two nations have been close allies for many years. So, forgive us this misunderstanding. Why did the UK vote to leave the EU?
- DanBC 10y ago
  > Currently in the USA we are seeing a wave of racist nationalist isolationism We have that in the UK with UKIP - the UK Independence Party. They've tried to move away from the blatantly racist core who find them attractive. You can't join UKIP as a member if you used to be a member of the National Front[1] or BNP[2]. They think this shows how they're not racists. I think it's telling that they need a rule to stop racists joining their party. I guess the rise of UKIP is good if it's meant a decline in the BNP. There are also other groups such as "EDL" (England Defence League) or "Britain First", who are anti-Muslim groups. These are just the well known groups. Organisations like Combat18 are also on the rise. [1] violent far-right thugs. Much worse than UKIP. [2] less violent, but still far-right thugs. Much worse than UKIP.
theoh 10y ago
You're making an inverse "no true scotsman" argument. Actually the vast majority of humanity is racist to some degree, including most of us posting here. It's something people need to learn to overcome.

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nix0n 10y ago

Currently in the USA we are seeing a wave of racist nationalist isolationism, so we tend to see these concepts as going together. It's always tempting to draw parallels between USA politics and UK politics since the two nations have been close allies for many years. So, forgive us this misunderstanding. Why did the UK vote to leave the EU?

DanBC 10y ago
> Currently in the USA we are seeing a wave of racist nationalist isolationism We have that in the UK with UKIP - the UK Independence Party. They've tried to move away from the blatantly racist core who find them attractive. You can't join UKIP as a member if you used to be a member of the National Front[1] or BNP[2]. They think this shows how they're not racists. I think it's telling that they need a rule to stop racists joining their party. I guess the rise of UKIP is good if it's meant a decline in the BNP. There are also other groups such as "EDL" (England Defence League) or "Britain First", who are anti-Muslim groups. These are just the well known groups. Organisations like Combat18 are also on the rise. [1] violent far-right thugs. Much worse than UKIP. [2] less violent, but still far-right thugs. Much worse than UKIP.

theoh 10y ago

You're making an inverse "no true scotsman" argument. Actually the vast majority of humanity is racist to some degree, including most of us posting here. It's something people need to learn to overcome.