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It's also very hard for a poorer or even middle class immigrant to move to a place like Switzerland because the cost of living is so high. This creates an envir
by partiallypro 10y ago
It's also very hard for a poorer or even middle class immigrant to move to a place like Switzerland because the cost of living is so high. This creates an environment of unanimity you wouldn't see in more diverse cultures like the U.S. or the U.K. I think that's largely why Switzerland and the Scandinavian states get accolades from U.S. politicians (not as much division.) But they don't seem to get that the cultures are no where near as diverse and thus the politics are not anywhere near as divisive.
That's not a criticism of diverse cultures, more of states living in relative unanimity being in a bubble.
- Inthenameofmine 10y agoWell, it's not like the swiss didn't have their fare share of ethnic issues in th past. Keep in mind that Switzerland is linguistically diverse. The difference is that because of direct democracy and every male being armed to the teeth, the government steps in and tries to reduce inequality. That way democracy works again. I mean, Jura used to have straight up ethnic riots.
- anu_gupta 10y agoIt's also not like your 'perfect' system wasn't financed by of the dirtiest money humanity has ever seen.
- tosseraccount 10y agoSwitzerland should be compared with their closest money ~handling~ competitors : Cayman Islands and the Channel Islands.
- jonwachob91 10y ago>that's largely why Switzerland and the Scandinavian states get accolades from U.S. politicians (not as much division.) I have to disagree with you. I have a lot of friends in Sweden that do nothing but complain about the immigration crisis they are facing. In fact one of my Swedish friends is here in the US now looking for a job because immigration has become such an issue in Sweden. She can name many immigrants she knows that are collecting more in welfare from the Swedish Government than what a Doctor makes... That's kinda fucked up if you ask me...
- partiallypro 10y agoI don't disagree with you in terms of -now-, I mean historically. The Syrian refugee crisis has changed demographics in Europe in a way that I don't think we've yet seen the full ramifications of.
- tdkl 10y agoOh we do, it's just you're called out as racist when you point it out.
- tangled_zans 10y agoSee, that kind of comments don't contribute anything to the conversation. All you're doing is portraying yourself as a victim and hijacking the issue back into the bullshit "are we too pc" debate again, which quite frankly most people are already sick of.
- jonwachob91 10y agoIn Sweden: Swedish citizens really are the victims and their society has become too PC. It's not like here in the US. If you hang a Swedish flag outside of your house you are automatically deemed a racist by your community. ANY semblance of pro-sweden is viewed as unfair by the immigrant community because they aren't swedish, because they aren't included. They've create a culture of everyone is a victim, citizens and immigrants. It's really a fucked up situation. A situation I hope never comes to the US.
- geon 10y ago> She can name many immigrants she knows that are collecting more in welfare from the Swedish Government than what a Doctor makes... Really? I have seen plenty of claims like that, and every time, they turn out to be false. And how much exactly does a "doctor" make? Lönestatistik.se lists between 12k and 180k SEK/month. Quite a span.
- tangled_zans 10y ago