7 ms·

Feels very unprofessional to me, really the sort of people you want to hire? Nothing wrong with not wanting to relocate but Garmin clearly didn't want to reloca

Feels very unprofessional to me, really the sort of people you want to hire? Nothing wrong with not wanting to relocate but Garmin clearly didn't want to relocate just to annoy them, there were obviously organisational, cost or other business reasons to.

CamperBob 17y ago
(Shrug) I grew up in that part of the country, and left for a reason. Life's too short to spend it around people who think Jesus rode a dinosaur to work. Sorry if you disagree, but unless you're a robot, professionalism only goes so far.
- Xichekolas 17y ago
  In all fairness, I grew up about five miles from the Garmin headquarters, and most people in that area don't believe Jesus rode a dinosaur to work (that would be in Wichita). However, Olathe is a town of suburbs and schools and not much else. I wouldn't want to move back there, period, let alone from SF.
  - mturmon 17y ago
    Same here, and this rings true. "Nice" is what you get, and nice has its limits.
  - RK 17y ago
    Is that really the perception of Wichita? I would have said Topeka. (Most) All of the crazy abortion protesters are from out of town. (I lived in Wichita at one point long ago.) I'll add that some of the parts of Kansas I've been to seem very nice if you want to raise kids, or just relax, although I wouldn't want to stay there long term.
    - Xichekolas 17y ago
      I almost threw Topeka in there, but I wanted to keep it simple. I know a lot of decidedly cool people from Wichita... but I also know quite a few crazies.
gamache 17y ago
I don't know where you're getting the impression that the website was rude to Garmin. All it said was that Garmin had relocated the project from SF to Kansas, and most/all of the team was declining to follow it. Just the facts.
temporaryacct 17y ago
Absolutely right. People like this are just not going to be team players. Garmin is getting eaten alive by GPS pressure through the Iphone, they are not laying people off or asking people to relocate for fun. In short, this is a PR disaster for Garmin brought on by disgruntled former employees who just don't care. Do you want employees that don't care about causing you a PR disaster?
- argv_empty 17y ago
  People like this are just not going to be team players. Is this the context where "team player" means "someone who will bend over backwards for a company that likely wouldn't do the same for him"?
  - deleted 17y ago
    [deleted]
- amackera 17y ago
  The entire point of the website is that the team is looking for a new job. They are all team players... they are practically the shining example of how a good team operates. Being a team player doesn't necessarily mean mindlessly obeying every corporate policy (though I suppose sometimes it does).
  - VBprogrammer 17y ago
    Exactly, its practically a miracle when a team gels well enough to actually work well together, never mind being so well integrated that they would come up with something this clever to try and continue working together rather than taking the every man for them self approach and trying to find new jobs individually.
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
- cullenking 17y ago
  Garmin isn't getting "eaten alive" by the smartphone market. Yes, Garmin, Navteq and others had market share eaten by navigation services on smartphones, however you are neglecting the fact a smart phone isn't a GPS. Try using a smartphone in a small airplane, boat, bicycle or while hiking. Garmin and crew are going nowhere, they may just lose the in-car navigation market to a certain extend. However, even that is a maybe/maybe not, because Garmin and all develop the navigation systems for stock cars. Plus, many older users will not buy a mount to put their tiny cellphone screen close enough to makeout, they'll use a giant in-car GPS system from one of the big manufacturers. There is definitely no PR disaster. The site isn't knocking Garmin at all. In all actuality, the people creating the site do not seem disgruntled one bit. They seem proud of the work they did, they rep Garmin products and seem in good spirits. Sorry, but your analysis is way off.

CamperBob 17y ago

(Shrug) I grew up in that part of the country, and left for a reason. Life's too short to spend it around people who think Jesus rode a dinosaur to work. Sorry if you disagree, but unless you're a robot, professionalism only goes so far.

Xichekolas 17y ago
In all fairness, I grew up about five miles from the Garmin headquarters, and most people in that area don't believe Jesus rode a dinosaur to work (that would be in Wichita). However, Olathe is a town of suburbs and schools and not much else. I wouldn't want to move back there, period, let alone from SF.
- mturmon 17y ago
  Same here, and this rings true. "Nice" is what you get, and nice has its limits.
- RK 17y ago
  Is that really the perception of Wichita? I would have said Topeka. (Most) All of the crazy abortion protesters are from out of town. (I lived in Wichita at one point long ago.) I'll add that some of the parts of Kansas I've been to seem very nice if you want to raise kids, or just relax, although I wouldn't want to stay there long term.
  - Xichekolas 17y ago
    I almost threw Topeka in there, but I wanted to keep it simple. I know a lot of decidedly cool people from Wichita... but I also know quite a few crazies.

gamache 17y ago

I don't know where you're getting the impression that the website was rude to Garmin. All it said was that Garmin had relocated the project from SF to Kansas, and most/all of the team was declining to follow it. Just the facts.

temporaryacct 17y ago

Absolutely right. People like this are just not going to be team players. Garmin is getting eaten alive by GPS pressure through the Iphone, they are not laying people off or asking people to relocate for fun. In short, this is a PR disaster for Garmin brought on by disgruntled former employees who just don't care. Do you want employees that don't care about causing you a PR disaster?

argv_empty 17y ago
People like this are just not going to be team players. Is this the context where "team player" means "someone who will bend over backwards for a company that likely wouldn't do the same for him"?
- deleted 17y ago
  [deleted]
amackera 17y ago
The entire point of the website is that the team is looking for a new job. They are all team players... they are practically the shining example of how a good team operates. Being a team player doesn't necessarily mean mindlessly obeying every corporate policy (though I suppose sometimes it does).
- VBprogrammer 17y ago
  Exactly, its practically a miracle when a team gels well enough to actually work well together, never mind being so well integrated that they would come up with something this clever to try and continue working together rather than taking the every man for them self approach and trying to find new jobs individually.
deleted 17y ago
[deleted]
cullenking 17y ago
Garmin isn't getting "eaten alive" by the smartphone market. Yes, Garmin, Navteq and others had market share eaten by navigation services on smartphones, however you are neglecting the fact a smart phone isn't a GPS. Try using a smartphone in a small airplane, boat, bicycle or while hiking. Garmin and crew are going nowhere, they may just lose the in-car navigation market to a certain extend. However, even that is a maybe/maybe not, because Garmin and all develop the navigation systems for stock cars. Plus, many older users will not buy a mount to put their tiny cellphone screen close enough to makeout, they'll use a giant in-car GPS system from one of the big manufacturers. There is definitely no PR disaster. The site isn't knocking Garmin at all. In all actuality, the people creating the site do not seem disgruntled one bit. They seem proud of the work they did, they rep Garmin products and seem in good spirits. Sorry, but your analysis is way off.