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UCSB '12 here as well. I got a BSEE and I found the contrast between grades in lower division and upper division classes to be quite stark. In the lower divis
by Ductapemaster 10y ago
UCSB '12 here as well. I got a BSEE and I found the contrast between grades in lower division and upper division classes to be quite stark. In the lower division classes you could get away with anything - for example people cheated on their online physics and math homework so everyone did well. The classes were too large so the TAs grade everything, and it's much easier to convince a TA to give you more credit for something than it is a professor. The class size makes professors resort to things like iClickers for participation points and the online homework I just mentioned. It degrades the quality of education while also creating a system with more loopholes that smart people can exploit, since everyone is optimizing for grades in the end.
In upper division, the classes got considerably smaller and considerably harder. Grades meant more, and the system was not easily played. When you have a class of 20 you can't screw around anymore. You can't hide behind your TA. You get what you put in.
That's not to say I didn't have funky grade experiences in upper div too - I had one class series that actually had a serious grade deflation problem. The average on our second quarter final was 18.5%. In the end, if you tried hard and did well in the lab, your grade was basically a participation score. Now, I learned an enormous amount in that class because it was so hard. It was demoralizing at times because everyone though they were going to fail (I vividly remember contemplating my future during that final, wondering if I would ever pass that class). So in that case, grades didn't really matter.
Personally I think the solution comes with class size. Grades become inflated because as more people are managed by a professor and their TAs, the less careful they have to be while handing them out. There's too many exceptions and they can't spend all their time tracking down who is being truthful when they say their dog ate their homework or their roommates keep them up all night because they're drunk. It's much the same problem as large corporations have with employee performance scores - as the body you are judging grows, your criteria become much more generalized and the judges much more disconnected from those being judged.
- heartsucker 10y agoI think it's more than that. A college is worth $X because its graduates go on to Do Great Things. Now suppose there's only 10 colleges in the world. 9 inflate grades to a 3.8 average and 1 keeps it at 3.0. Who is going to get hired easier? I think grade inflation is two fold. 1) students gaming the system and chasing grades rather than education, and 2) the system gaming against other participants.
- LanceH 10y agoThe student graduating from the prestigious university in the difficult major will be interviewed first. The student graduating from the state university in the difficult major will be interviewed second. Somewhere down the line the consulting companies and body shops will look at gpa's.