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Why the anger?

jacquesm 10y ago
At a guess because during the referendum for Scottish independence from the UK the line was 'stay because otherwise you'll not be in the EU anymore'. So for the Scots to find themselves out of the EU now by force is probably not what they wanted to wake up to.
s_kilk 10y ago
Personally, because my home (Scotland) is being dragged into this situation against its will. If the English want to destroy themselves they're entitled to do so, but not drag the rest of us down with them.
- DyslexicAtheist 10y ago
  Wouldn't it be great to have 3 more referendums for Wales, Scotland, Ireland to let them vote once more time? And then have them join the EU separately?
  - theoh 10y ago
    You mean "Northern Ireland".
    - DyslexicAtheist 10y ago
      yes though I also realise Wales actually voted out so it would just be N.I. and Scotland
- ianstallings 10y ago
  Ah, so it's hitting you personally. Well as an American, I can relate. We don't always get the government we want.
  - NetStrikeForce 10y ago
    You get to change government every 4 years. Scots are screwed for life against their will. Hardly the same.
  - s_kilk 10y ago
    Sometimes we don't get the government we want, but sometimes we get the government we explicitly rejected.
- dingo_bat 10y ago
  That's quite a stupid reason to be angry. I would hope that people living in UK would understand the meaning of democracy.
  - jacquesm 10y ago
    At a guess, they do. And democracy with 'simple majority required for huge changes' may not be the best recipe to get buy-in from those that are dragged along. So I fully understand the anger, if it weren't for the recent Scottish referendum that would be a different situation, but that did happen and for the Scots this must be extremely bitter right now.
  - omginternets 10y ago
    "majority rules" is often conflated with democracy.
- sievebrain 10y ago
  40% of Scots voted to leave. I wouldn't talk about it like it's a single hive mind if I were you.
  - celticninja 10y ago
    Which means greater majority of Scots wanted to remain compared to a much smaller majority of the whole UK that wanted to leave. If a 51% vote to leave is relevant enough to warrant the UK leaving the EU then a 60% vote to remain is relevant.
    - sievebrain 10y ago
      It's absolutely relevant, but it also means talking about the Scottish as if there are no eurosceptics there isn't reasonable.
dboreham 10y ago
Have you seen Braveheart?

Why the anger?

At a guess because during the referendum for Scottish independence from the UK the line was 'stay because otherwise you'll not be in the EU anymore'. So for the Scots to find themselves out of the EU now by force is probably not what they wanted to wake up to.

s_kilk 10y ago

Personally, because my home (Scotland) is being dragged into this situation against its will. If the English want to destroy themselves they're entitled to do so, but not drag the rest of us down with them.

DyslexicAtheist 10y ago
Wouldn't it be great to have 3 more referendums for Wales, Scotland, Ireland to let them vote once more time? And then have them join the EU separately?
- theoh 10y ago
  You mean "Northern Ireland".
  - DyslexicAtheist 10y ago
    yes though I also realise Wales actually voted out so it would just be N.I. and Scotland
ianstallings 10y ago
Ah, so it's hitting you personally. Well as an American, I can relate. We don't always get the government we want.
- NetStrikeForce 10y ago
  You get to change government every 4 years. Scots are screwed for life against their will. Hardly the same.
- s_kilk 10y ago
  Sometimes we don't get the government we want, but sometimes we get the government we explicitly rejected.
dingo_bat 10y ago
That's quite a stupid reason to be angry. I would hope that people living in UK would understand the meaning of democracy.
- jacquesm 10y ago
  At a guess, they do. And democracy with 'simple majority required for huge changes' may not be the best recipe to get buy-in from those that are dragged along. So I fully understand the anger, if it weren't for the recent Scottish referendum that would be a different situation, but that did happen and for the Scots this must be extremely bitter right now.
- omginternets 10y ago
  "majority rules" is often conflated with democracy.
sievebrain 10y ago
40% of Scots voted to leave. I wouldn't talk about it like it's a single hive mind if I were you.
- celticninja 10y ago
  Which means greater majority of Scots wanted to remain compared to a much smaller majority of the whole UK that wanted to leave. If a 51% vote to leave is relevant enough to warrant the UK leaving the EU then a 60% vote to remain is relevant.
  - sievebrain 10y ago
    It's absolutely relevant, but it also means talking about the Scottish as if there are no eurosceptics there isn't reasonable.

dboreham 10y ago

Have you seen Braveheart?