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I read this post coming from a German, since you promoted Frankfurt and Berlin. As an Englishman, let me tell you somethings from an opposing view. - Internat

I read this post coming from a German, since you promoted Frankfurt and Berlin. As an Englishman, let me tell you somethings from an opposing view. - International companies won't be moving to ireland/continent. The UK at one point wasn't as integrated and was doing quite well. It will do again. The financial industry will not leave London. It's not going to happen. There are many reasons why. Keep dreaming. London is the best startup in Europe currently. - Sure the EU can be hard as possible, but then so can the UK. There are many EU countries which export to the UK. It's not just a one way thing. - The British economy will not collapse. How you can think that I have no idea. Yes the pound did go down, it's gone down many times in history. But it will recover again. The Bank of England, already accounted for this. There is no panic. - The US said the UK is not that important? Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. But in reality it actually is. Germany, Spain, all other countries of EU are not as important as the UK. - Scotland will most likely want to exit. They are 4 million people after all. But when they do exit. All the British companies currently there, will leave to go to London. They'll join as another country like Estonia or worse off. I don't know if Europe will have them lol. - N. Ireland won't exit. They are deeply patriotic people and see themselves as British. Sorry. But I really don't think you know what you are talking about!

prodmerc 10y ago
Well, his post was pretty negative towards the UK, yours is a bit too positive... IMO Plenty of companies will move to Ireland/Germany. I think the EU/UK will reach agreements that are more or less the same as they are now (making Leave a bit pointless). The economy will not collapse, but it will be worse off short term. I don't think US cares more about either the EU/UK. Equal for all. If Scotland goes - why would those companies not move to the EU, since it would be about the same difficulty wise?
anonyfox 10y ago
Yes, we have deeply opposing views here, obviously. I can clearly see where you're coming from and follow the logic. Having said that, I strongly disagree, see my initial post. Only the future will tell who will be right (or none of us?). Political Power Play is a gamble, and I bet strongly on a more united europe. Others do different bets, as seen in the brexit vote. All sides contain competent and educated people finally.
csomar 10y ago
> Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. You lost me here.
jacquesm 10y ago
> I read this post coming from a German, since you promoted Frankfurt and Berlin. Probably right. > International companies won't be moving to ireland/continent. The UK at one point wasn't as integrated and was doing quite well. It will do again. Yes, but back then the EU was a lot less strong than it is today, even without the UK as a part of it. > The financial industry will not leave London. It's not going to happen. There are many reasons why. Keep dreaming. 250 Billion worth of capital has already fled judging by the drop of the pound, and more is likely to follow. Yes, the financial hub of Europe will shift its COG to Frankfurt. That's something that a re-entry in the EU of England at a later date will not be able to recover. > London is the best startup in Europe currently. I assume you left out 'centre' or 'hub', and it was so until today. But if I were starting a start-up I'd definitely think twice now about whether or not to do this in the UK, and London specifically. > ure the EU can be hard as possible, but then so can the UK. There are many EU countries which export to the UK. It's not just a one way thing. The relative sizes of the parties dictate the likely outcome of such negotiations. Already there are some pretty clear lines drawn and those will only become more stark in time. This was an 'own goal' if there ever was one. > The US said the UK is not that important? Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. But in reality it actually is. Germany, Spain, all other countries of EU are not as important as the UK. This is mis-informed. The UK is important as a country within the EU. Once the UK leaves (and especially if the UK then breaks up even further) it is no longer that important a country. > Scotland will most likely want to exit. They are 4 million people after all. But when they do exit. All the British companies currently there, will leave to go to London. They'll join as another country like Estonia or worse off. I don't know if Europe will have them lol. I'm not sure if 'lol' is something that you'd want to use about anything today. And Scotland is definitely a viable country and would most likely be very welcome in the EU. And all the British companies there might actually see Scotland as the backdoor to remain in the EU, and I would not be surprised if they more than anything else would push to achieve this. > N. Ireland won't exit. They are deeply patriotic people and see themselves as British. That one is a toss-up, but not hugely important for the EU, though it would be hugely important to the UK, if they wish to keep that 'U'. In other words: the UK has made itself a bit player overnight and chances are that only England will remain at the end of all this, with a substantially reduced economy and a very tiny market to sell into. It will hurt all those who voted 'exit' the hardest, and it will be studied for decades to come as an example of how an electorate can be manipulated to vote against its own interests.
teamhappy 10y ago
> International companies won't be moving to ireland/continent. Probably true, but they will certainly strengthen their position on the mainland. > The financial industry will not leave London. Also true. The reasons mostly being lack of regulation and corruption :P > The British economy will not collapse. True. (I hope.) > The US said the UK is not that important? Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. WTF > Germany, Spain, all other countries of EU are not as important as the UK. Germany has a higher GDP than the UK. Never mind the combined GDP of some of the bigger EU member states. I'm not sure why you think the UK is that important. > Scotland will most likely want to exit. Yup. > N. Ireland won't exit. No idea, but it sounds reasonable.

prodmerc 10y ago

Well, his post was pretty negative towards the UK, yours is a bit too positive... IMO Plenty of companies will move to Ireland/Germany. I think the EU/UK will reach agreements that are more or less the same as they are now (making Leave a bit pointless). The economy will not collapse, but it will be worse off short term. I don't think US cares more about either the EU/UK. Equal for all. If Scotland goes - why would those companies not move to the EU, since it would be about the same difficulty wise?

anonyfox 10y ago

Yes, we have deeply opposing views here, obviously. I can clearly see where you're coming from and follow the logic. Having said that, I strongly disagree, see my initial post. Only the future will tell who will be right (or none of us?). Political Power Play is a gamble, and I bet strongly on a more united europe. Others do different bets, as seen in the brexit vote. All sides contain competent and educated people finally.

csomar 10y ago

> Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. You lost me here.

jacquesm 10y ago

> I read this post coming from a German, since you promoted Frankfurt and Berlin. Probably right. > International companies won't be moving to ireland/continent. The UK at one point wasn't as integrated and was doing quite well. It will do again. Yes, but back then the EU was a lot less strong than it is today, even without the UK as a part of it. > The financial industry will not leave London. It's not going to happen. There are many reasons why. Keep dreaming. 250 Billion worth of capital has already fled judging by the drop of the pound, and more is likely to follow. Yes, the financial hub of Europe will shift its COG to Frankfurt. That's something that a re-entry in the EU of England at a later date will not be able to recover. > London is the best startup in Europe currently. I assume you left out 'centre' or 'hub', and it was so until today. But if I were starting a start-up I'd definitely think twice now about whether or not to do this in the UK, and London specifically. > ure the EU can be hard as possible, but then so can the UK. There are many EU countries which export to the UK. It's not just a one way thing. The relative sizes of the parties dictate the likely outcome of such negotiations. Already there are some pretty clear lines drawn and those will only become more stark in time. This was an 'own goal' if there ever was one. > The US said the UK is not that important? Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. But in reality it actually is. Germany, Spain, all other countries of EU are not as important as the UK. This is mis-informed. The UK is important as a country within the EU. Once the UK leaves (and especially if the UK then breaks up even further) it is no longer that important a country. > Scotland will most likely want to exit. They are 4 million people after all. But when they do exit. All the British companies currently there, will leave to go to London. They'll join as another country like Estonia or worse off. I don't know if Europe will have them lol. I'm not sure if 'lol' is something that you'd want to use about anything today. And Scotland is definitely a viable country and would most likely be very welcome in the EU. And all the British companies there might actually see Scotland as the backdoor to remain in the EU, and I would not be surprised if they more than anything else would push to achieve this. > N. Ireland won't exit. They are deeply patriotic people and see themselves as British. That one is a toss-up, but not hugely important for the EU, though it would be hugely important to the UK, if they wish to keep that 'U'. In other words: the UK has made itself a bit player overnight and chances are that only England will remain at the end of all this, with a substantially reduced economy and a very tiny market to sell into. It will hurt all those who voted 'exit' the hardest, and it will be studied for decades to come as an example of how an electorate can be manipulated to vote against its own interests.

teamhappy 10y ago

> International companies won't be moving to ireland/continent. Probably true, but they will certainly strengthen their position on the mainland. > The financial industry will not leave London. Also true. The reasons mostly being lack of regulation and corruption :P > The British economy will not collapse. True. (I hope.) > The US said the UK is not that important? Says Obama because his dad is from Kenya hates the UK. WTF > Germany, Spain, all other countries of EU are not as important as the UK. Germany has a higher GDP than the UK. Never mind the combined GDP of some of the bigger EU member states. I'm not sure why you think the UK is that important. > Scotland will most likely want to exit. Yup. > N. Ireland won't exit. No idea, but it sounds reasonable.