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People seem to think this vote is the final word but my understanding is that it isn't legally binding and the final decision is up to elected politicians. Tha

by pmorici 10y ago

People seem to think this vote is the final word but my understanding is that it isn't legally binding and the final decision is up to elected politicians. That's why you saw the prime minister say he would resign. He supported staying and by him resigning new elections will be held.

anon1385 10y ago
The PM resigning does not result in new elections. The Conservative party will vote on a new leader and that person will become the new PM until 2020. (As things stand).
chatwinra 10y ago
Yes that's right. It's not legally binding and the whole exit process only starts when the government invokes article 50 of the EU treaty, which is the exit process and lasts 2 years. Cameron (the PM) talked about not invoking article 50 straight away, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope for us that voted to stay in that we still have time for further discussions.
- insickness 10y ago
  'A glimmer of hope?' That what, democracy won't be carried out?
- ghughes 10y ago
  The discussions happened. Democracy played out. We lost.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  Isn't this totally anti-democracy? Despite it not being legally binding, it seems totally in contrary to the people's will. I don't understand positively talking about going opposite of what people voted for. It seems especially odd since it's usually the Leave side that's accused of being fascist. Or is the idea to do more polling until a favourable outcome is received?
  - exit 10y ago
    voted for by a 4% margin. don't kid yourself about what democracy actually represents - it's not a united will. i wonder how many of those 4% will even be alive + not senile by the time this plays out.
    - de_Selby 10y ago
      They already appear to be senile..
  - collyw 10y ago
    While I agree with what you say, there is very little of what I consider democracy involved in our media manipulated first past the post system. When the winning side basically backed out of their promises within hours of the result is it really democratic?
DanBC 10y ago
You're right that it's not a binding vote, but there's no possibility that MPs would not start the process of Brexit. Cameron possibly just wants to avoid the clusterfuck of the next two years. Along the lines of Boris made this bed, let him sleep in it. EDIT: And he's not resigning as a politician (which would trigger a by-election for his seat), he's only resigning as PM.
hobbes 10y ago
The only election to be held will be a Tory leadership election, not a general election. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/who-will-be-our-next-prime-minister-as-david-cameron-resigns-fol/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/who-will-be-our-n... The UK votes for constituency members of parliament, not a prime minister.
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by pmorici 10y ago

anon1385 10y ago

The PM resigning does not result in new elections. The Conservative party will vote on a new leader and that person will become the new PM until 2020. (As things stand).

chatwinra 10y ago

Yes that's right. It's not legally binding and the whole exit process only starts when the government invokes article 50 of the EU treaty, which is the exit process and lasts 2 years. Cameron (the PM) talked about not invoking article 50 straight away, so maybe there's a glimmer of hope for us that voted to stay in that we still have time for further discussions.

insickness 10y ago
'A glimmer of hope?' That what, democracy won't be carried out?
ghughes 10y ago
The discussions happened. Democracy played out. We lost.
MichaelGG 10y ago
Isn't this totally anti-democracy? Despite it not being legally binding, it seems totally in contrary to the people's will. I don't understand positively talking about going opposite of what people voted for. It seems especially odd since it's usually the Leave side that's accused of being fascist. Or is the idea to do more polling until a favourable outcome is received?
- exit 10y ago
  voted for by a 4% margin. don't kid yourself about what democracy actually represents - it's not a united will. i wonder how many of those 4% will even be alive + not senile by the time this plays out.
  - de_Selby 10y ago
    They already appear to be senile..
- collyw 10y ago
  While I agree with what you say, there is very little of what I consider democracy involved in our media manipulated first past the post system. When the winning side basically backed out of their promises within hours of the result is it really democratic?

DanBC 10y ago

You're right that it's not a binding vote, but there's no possibility that MPs would not start the process of Brexit. Cameron possibly just wants to avoid the clusterfuck of the next two years. Along the lines of Boris made this bed, let him sleep in it. EDIT: And he's not resigning as a politician (which would trigger a by-election for his seat), he's only resigning as PM.

hobbes 10y ago

The only election to be held will be a Tory leadership election, not a general election. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/who-will-be-our-next-prime-minister-as-david-cameron-resigns-fol/ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/24/who-will-be-our-n... The UK votes for constituency members of parliament, not a prime minister.

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