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But isn't this the point of direct democracy? That you can elect someone (a MP) to represent you in most issues you care mildly about, despite not agreeing with

by tomp 10y ago

But isn't this the point of direct democracy? That you can elect someone (a MP) to represent you in most issues you care mildly about, despite not agreeing with them on some very important issues. You get to vote on those issues separately.

keithpeter 10y ago
Disclaimer: I voted to remain (I fit the demographic of the 16 million - postgrad degree, professional &c). The leave voters I spoke to kept mentioning 'feeling in control' and concern about EU immigration and benefits. Also 'don't want them to ignore us'. Basically, bye election rhetoric. They bought the suggestion that 'a deal will be done' about England's access to European Economic Area as more or less certain. I hope they are right about the last one :-)
- emp_zealoth 10y ago
  Ironically, I heard that access to European Economic Area means european regulations, european migrants, european workers. Basically everything they hate
  - keithpeter 10y ago
    Yes, exactly, and in a superb example of Rorty's irony, no control or consultation whatsoever - known as 'government by fax' in Switzerland. But people forget, and when the jobs start going, ideas will change. The more I look at the geographical/demographical distribution of voting, the more I see evidence of turkeys voting for Christmas. All most strange. Enough for quite a few data analysis projects I think! http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/upcoming-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-su...
- rorykoehler 10y ago
  I hope they're not. I will welcome all the remain territories back into the EU with open arms but I think people should learn to live with the consequences of their small minded decisions. We've been hearing all this nonsense about leaving for years and quite frankly I'm sick of it. Cameron thought he could play politics and look smart and instead he got royally shafted. He will live with the consequences for the rest of his life for sure. If people want to be selfish, greedy and easily manipulated puppets then they should be made live in the world they have chosen. For the rest of us we can continue on with our progress unimpeded by small-minded BS.
  - keithpeter 10y ago
    OK, I should have said "some powerful business interests in Germany especially will hope they prove to be right about the last one".
daviddumenil 10y ago
I think by Direct Democracy the parent means where every vote is put to the people rather than via an elected proxy like an MP.

by tomp 10y ago

keithpeter 10y ago

Disclaimer: I voted to remain (I fit the demographic of the 16 million - postgrad degree, professional &c). The leave voters I spoke to kept mentioning 'feeling in control' and concern about EU immigration and benefits. Also 'don't want them to ignore us'. Basically, bye election rhetoric. They bought the suggestion that 'a deal will be done' about England's access to European Economic Area as more or less certain. I hope they are right about the last one :-)

emp_zealoth 10y ago
Ironically, I heard that access to European Economic Area means european regulations, european migrants, european workers. Basically everything they hate
- keithpeter 10y ago
  Yes, exactly, and in a superb example of Rorty's irony, no control or consultation whatsoever - known as 'government by fax' in Switzerland. But people forget, and when the jobs start going, ideas will change. The more I look at the geographical/demographical distribution of voting, the more I see evidence of turkeys voting for Christmas. All most strange. Enough for quite a few data analysis projects I think! http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/elections-and-referendums/upcoming-elections-and-referendums/eu-referendum/electorate-and-count-information http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-su...
rorykoehler 10y ago
I hope they're not. I will welcome all the remain territories back into the EU with open arms but I think people should learn to live with the consequences of their small minded decisions. We've been hearing all this nonsense about leaving for years and quite frankly I'm sick of it. Cameron thought he could play politics and look smart and instead he got royally shafted. He will live with the consequences for the rest of his life for sure. If people want to be selfish, greedy and easily manipulated puppets then they should be made live in the world they have chosen. For the rest of us we can continue on with our progress unimpeded by small-minded BS.
- keithpeter 10y ago
  OK, I should have said "some powerful business interests in Germany especially will hope they prove to be right about the last one".

daviddumenil 10y ago

I think by Direct Democracy the parent means where every vote is put to the people rather than via an elected proxy like an MP.