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I suspect that a country has to have referendums fairly often for them to work as intended. One problem in the UK was that people were answering different ques

by rjsw 10y ago

I suspect that a country has to have referendums fairly often for them to work as intended. One problem in the UK was that people were answering different questions to the one asked.

DanBC 10y ago
...and basing their answers on blatant lies. (EG We can spend some of the £350m per week on NHS.)
- arethuza 10y ago
  I can see some nasty cutbacks to things like the NHS coming - ideologically motivated but justified by our self inflicted forthcoming recession.
- sievebrain 10y ago
  How is that a "blatant lie"? Does that money go to the EU? Yes. Would that money be freed up for other uses? Yes. Would some of it end up being reallocated to the NHS? Very likely, given the politics of the UK. If you'd said ALL of it WILL go on the NHS then you'd be right, but you aren't arguing with that statement.
  - raverbashing 10y ago
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/23/does-the-eu-really-cost-the-uk-350m-a-week http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/2... Oh and by the way even Nigel Farage has said it's not like that http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-...
  - DanBC 10y ago
    Borris and Farage said that £350m will go to the NHS. https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 "Let's give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week" https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 "We send the EU £350 million a week Let's fund our NHS instead" The clear implication is that £350m per week is available, and that it will be spent on the NHS. £350m is the gross figure, it ignores the > £200m per week we get back. There is not going to be any increase in NHS funding. Anyone who voted leave because they thought there would be an increase in NHS funding hasn't been paying attention - the NHS has seen deep cuts in recent years and those are only going to get worse after Brexit.

by rjsw 10y ago

I suspect that a country has to have referendums fairly often for them to work as intended. One problem in the UK was that people were answering different questions to the one asked.

DanBC 10y ago

...and basing their answers on blatant lies. (EG We can spend some of the £350m per week on NHS.)

arethuza 10y ago
I can see some nasty cutbacks to things like the NHS coming - ideologically motivated but justified by our self inflicted forthcoming recession.
sievebrain 10y ago
How is that a "blatant lie"? Does that money go to the EU? Yes. Would that money be freed up for other uses? Yes. Would some of it end up being reallocated to the NHS? Very likely, given the politics of the UK. If you'd said ALL of it WILL go on the NHS then you'd be right, but you aren't arguing with that statement.
- raverbashing 10y ago
  http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/23/does-the-eu-really-cost-the-uk-350m-a-week http://www.theguardian.com/politics/reality-check/2016/may/2... Oh and by the way even Nigel Farage has said it's not like that http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-...
- DanBC 10y ago
  Borris and Farage said that £350m will go to the NHS. https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 "Let's give our NHS the £350 million the EU takes every week" https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 https://twitter.com/mgtmccartney/status/746245181532418048 "We send the EU £350 million a week Let's fund our NHS instead" The clear implication is that £350m per week is available, and that it will be spent on the NHS. £350m is the gross figure, it ignores the > £200m per week we get back. There is not going to be any increase in NHS funding. Anyone who voted leave because they thought there would be an increase in NHS funding hasn't been paying attention - the NHS has seen deep cuts in recent years and those are only going to get worse after Brexit.