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I doubt the UK would go for that deal either, so it's debatable whether it's a 'good' deal if neither group (on the whole) is likely to be interested in it. I'
by ZenoArrow 10y ago
I doubt the UK would go for that deal either, so it's debatable whether it's a 'good' deal if neither group (on the whole) is likely to be interested in it.
I'd suggest the deals made will be based on trade tariffs and product standards. Deals that required dealing with EU regulation or free movement of labour aren't likely to be popular in the UK.
If the EU drags its heels, the UK will probably use it's position as a member of the British Commonwealth to push for increased trade between Commonwealth countries whilst it waits for EU trade deals to get ironed out.
- Scarblac 10y agoOf course the UK must negotiate with all the other countries it wants to trade with as well, not just the EU. But look at TTIP, that kind of thing takes decades.
- bayesian_horse 10y agoWell, the EU can't make such a deal without freedom of movement. All those countries the UK doesn't want EU immigrants out of? They aren't going to sign off on any deal without that. And good luck running your NHS without EU doctors...
- ZenoArrow 10y agoDoes the EU have any trade deals with countries outside the EU?
- rodgerd 10y agoYes. And I can tell you, as someone living in such a country, they're extremely hostile to the non-EU countries. And typically involve respecting EU naming rules (can't call it champagne!), food products held to much higher standards than EU manufacturers, and quotas.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago> "they're extremely hostile to the non-EU countries" Can you give me one example? As for Champagne, its a product from the Champagne region of France (similar to how Prosecco is from Italy), I don't see why it's a problem to call similar products from elsewhere sparkling white wine.
- bayesian_horse 10y agoThe problem is a much lower price or much lower sales ;-)
- ZenoArrow 10y agoIf you're referring to Champagne, then the answer is to build up your own brand. If I was in the drinks industry and produced cola, I don't have the right to sell it as Coca Cola. It's the same thing with Champagne.
- bayesian_horse 10y agoNo it's not. But anyway, the point is that the third-party country has to follow EU rules without having a say in them. It will probably also have to allow in EU exports which could threaten parts of their economy.
- ZenoArrow 10y ago> "It will probably also have to allow in EU exports which could threaten parts of their economy." Of course they'll have to let in EU exports, just like the EU will have to let in UK exports. Why? They're all members of the World Trade Organisation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization The EU is set up to allow the member countries to cooperate more closely, through lower trade barriers and suchlike. The idea that leaving the EU means zero trade is absurd.
- mcv 10y ago
- jventura 10y agoThis! In the last years my country, Portugal, has been seing a mass exodus of highly qualified young people (many nurses and medical doctors) mostly to England. If there are many restrictions to move to UK, I don't know if they will start moving to central europe (as outside france, we do not have any cultural proximity to other countries).. Either way, it's a lose-lose situation for both countries.