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Whereas the old remember the "good old years before all those funny Polish shops started opening". Well at least it'll hit their pensions. Oh, wait, no it won'

by estefan 10y ago

Whereas the old remember the "good old years before all those funny Polish shops started opening". Well at least it'll hit their pensions. Oh, wait, no it won't because most of them will have final salary pensions schemes the working generation is paying for and could never hope to have themselves... At least they can sell their houses which have increased in value by 100%s of percent over the last 30 years. So the older generation (& working class) have fucked us.

guitarbill 10y ago
I do love it when retirees talk about immigrants taking all the jobs... Of course, all the immigrants taking all the jobs are also stealing all the benefits. Logical, really /s
Kequc 10y ago
Yours is a simplistic cartoonish and insulting strawman of the older generation. Britain has been in the EU for 43 years, 65 year olds were kids themselves when it joined. Everyone in Britain has been in the EU their whole lives. Couldn't it possibly be to do with anything more recent?
- soundwave106 10y ago
  The comment about the youth being easily manipulated was also frankly cartoonish and insulting. If anything I see the reverse. Immigrant fears was the driving factor for the Leave vote. Given that UK tabloids have been doing quite a good job exploiting immigrant fears of late, who's being manipulated here? The Donald Trump phenomenon has very similar parallels (build a wall!), demographics (white, leans no college education, leans elderly), and root cause (largely cultural discomfort). The rise of other far-right parties in Europe shows similar concerns. This vote to me smacks of the decades of American Southerners (and others in similar areas) voting against their own economic interests in order to protect a race-based pecking order. As in the American South, now England. It probably won't be the last vote like this, either.
  - zghst 10y ago
    I don't. I didn't blanket all youth and make it a fact.
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by estefan 10y ago

guitarbill 10y ago

I do love it when retirees talk about immigrants taking all the jobs... Of course, all the immigrants taking all the jobs are also stealing all the benefits. Logical, really /s

Kequc 10y ago

Yours is a simplistic cartoonish and insulting strawman of the older generation. Britain has been in the EU for 43 years, 65 year olds were kids themselves when it joined. Everyone in Britain has been in the EU their whole lives. Couldn't it possibly be to do with anything more recent?

soundwave106 10y ago
The comment about the youth being easily manipulated was also frankly cartoonish and insulting. If anything I see the reverse. Immigrant fears was the driving factor for the Leave vote. Given that UK tabloids have been doing quite a good job exploiting immigrant fears of late, who's being manipulated here? The Donald Trump phenomenon has very similar parallels (build a wall!), demographics (white, leans no college education, leans elderly), and root cause (largely cultural discomfort). The rise of other far-right parties in Europe shows similar concerns. This vote to me smacks of the decades of American Southerners (and others in similar areas) voting against their own economic interests in order to protect a race-based pecking order. As in the American South, now England. It probably won't be the last vote like this, either.
- zghst 10y ago
  I don't. I didn't blanket all youth and make it a fact.
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