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Of course the EU will continue to threaten the UK to "reconsider" its decision. But the fact remains that countries like Switzerland and Norway are much better

Of course the EU will continue to threaten the UK to "reconsider" its decision. But the fact remains that countries like Switzerland and Norway are much better off in economic terms by not having joined the EU in the first place. Citizens of the UK have to ask themselves if they are going to allow the EU to threaten them into submission. I am now 100% sure that the EU is done, this is it. Le Pen will win the next elections in France and then they'll leave too. Same goes for the Dutch.

bayesian_horse 10y ago
Switzerland and Norway are better off by agreeing to terms which the Leave campaign explicitly does not want. They also have significant strategic advantages which the UK is just lacking, and their economies are rather small. The UK can't get a better deal even if the EU wanted to give it to them. Which they don't by the way!
roel_v 10y ago
"Same goes for the Dutch." Eh, no. 58% wants to remain, 26% leave (numbers as of two weeks ago). The Dutch realize much more than the Brits how much we depend on tight integration with others (as a small country, as a heavy trader, but also as less inward-looking as the Brits).
- sievebrain 10y ago
  Those are very close to the polling figures at the start of the UK referendum process. Voting intentions changed significantly during the campaigns.
  - nightcracker 10y ago
    [citation needed] I can't find those numbers, in fact the numbers that I did find are literally all over the place (for both Leave/Remain).
    - sievebrain 10y ago
      When I first started paying attention to this issue back around November time last year, I think the polls that I saw were about 30% to leave.
seszett 10y ago
> Le Pen will win the next elections in France Yeah... not a chance really.
bench_soup 10y ago
>Le Pen will win the next elections in France and then they'll leave too. They have no intentions to actually leave, their economic program doesn't even make sense.
notahacker 10y ago
Switzerland and Norway have joined the EU in all but name (and voting rights) economically; all the trade-related EU directives apply and their borders are actually more open and let in more EU migrants per capita. Of course the UK has the option of going for the same deal, but if they do, a lot of the Leave voters are going to feel very, very betrayed.

bayesian_horse 10y ago

Switzerland and Norway are better off by agreeing to terms which the Leave campaign explicitly does not want. They also have significant strategic advantages which the UK is just lacking, and their economies are rather small. The UK can't get a better deal even if the EU wanted to give it to them. Which they don't by the way!

roel_v 10y ago

"Same goes for the Dutch." Eh, no. 58% wants to remain, 26% leave (numbers as of two weeks ago). The Dutch realize much more than the Brits how much we depend on tight integration with others (as a small country, as a heavy trader, but also as less inward-looking as the Brits).

sievebrain 10y ago
Those are very close to the polling figures at the start of the UK referendum process. Voting intentions changed significantly during the campaigns.
- nightcracker 10y ago
  [citation needed] I can't find those numbers, in fact the numbers that I did find are literally all over the place (for both Leave/Remain).
  - sievebrain 10y ago
    When I first started paying attention to this issue back around November time last year, I think the polls that I saw were about 30% to leave.

seszett 10y ago

> Le Pen will win the next elections in France Yeah... not a chance really.

bench_soup 10y ago

>Le Pen will win the next elections in France and then they'll leave too. They have no intentions to actually leave, their economic program doesn't even make sense.

notahacker 10y ago

Switzerland and Norway have joined the EU in all but name (and voting rights) economically; all the trade-related EU directives apply and their borders are actually more open and let in more EU migrants per capita. Of course the UK has the option of going for the same deal, but if they do, a lot of the Leave voters are going to feel very, very betrayed.