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Guides like this are so, so helpful. I had a lot of false starts when I first started exploring Clojure, all due to difficulties setting up a development envir

by prosa 17y ago

Guides like this are so, so helpful. I had a lot of false starts when I first started exploring Clojure, all due to difficulties setting up a development environment. Maybe due to its (relative) infancy, Clojure (and its tools) has been one of those packages that I find myself constantly wrangling with. Documentation like this, even at the overview level, is going to help a lot of people.

fogus 17y ago
You're not alone. Sadly, the state of Clojure IDEs is the cause of much frustration for newcomers. It's getting better, but still not perfect. Guides like this will help tremendously.
- prosa 17y ago
  Not to mention that I started with VimClojure. Trying to get Nailgun working felt like I was using a real nailgun on my computer, with similar results.
  - va_coder 17y ago
    True. I used this forum post to help me get started with nailgun: http://www.mail-archive.com/clojure@googlegroups.com/msg16200.html http://www.mail-archive.com/clojure@googlegroups.com/msg1620... The other tip not mentioned is that you must evaluate each expression. So if there are two expressions or functions and the second uses the first. You must first run <Leader>et for the first and then <Leader>et for the second. Although this is an "issue" with some Emacs commands as well. We need a vimclojure wiki.
- gtani 17y ago
  i think for folks doing some combination of clojure, scala, jruby and groovy, netBeans is the path of least resistance. I hope Oracle realizes this, and devotes resources to maintenance, at the very least.
watmough 17y ago
What kind of problems did you have? One of the strengths of Clojure is that you can develop in the repl / notepad with essentially just jline and a valid java install. I worked like this for a while, but have recently moved to TextMate, now I'm planning some more Clojure work.
- anonjon 17y ago
  You can do that... but it is much easier to have compile/load shortcuts, paren-match highlighting, and automatic indentation....
  - axomhacker 17y ago
    There's a tmbundle (haven't used it yet): http://github.com/nullstyle/clojure-tmbundle http://github.com/nullstyle/clojure-tmbundle Although the installation doc says it uses the REPL and screen (and ruby, though that's mostly true for most tmbundles).

by prosa 17y ago

fogus 17y ago

You're not alone. Sadly, the state of Clojure IDEs is the cause of much frustration for newcomers. It's getting better, but still not perfect. Guides like this will help tremendously.

prosa 17y ago
Not to mention that I started with VimClojure. Trying to get Nailgun working felt like I was using a real nailgun on my computer, with similar results.
- va_coder 17y ago
  True. I used this forum post to help me get started with nailgun: http://www.mail-archive.com/clojure@googlegroups.com/msg16200.html http://www.mail-archive.com/clojure@googlegroups.com/msg1620... The other tip not mentioned is that you must evaluate each expression. So if there are two expressions or functions and the second uses the first. You must first run <Leader>et for the first and then <Leader>et for the second. Although this is an "issue" with some Emacs commands as well. We need a vimclojure wiki.
gtani 17y ago
i think for folks doing some combination of clojure, scala, jruby and groovy, netBeans is the path of least resistance. I hope Oracle realizes this, and devotes resources to maintenance, at the very least.

watmough 17y ago

What kind of problems did you have? One of the strengths of Clojure is that you can develop in the repl / notepad with essentially just jline and a valid java install. I worked like this for a while, but have recently moved to TextMate, now I'm planning some more Clojure work.

anonjon 17y ago
You can do that... but it is much easier to have compile/load shortcuts, paren-match highlighting, and automatic indentation....
- axomhacker 17y ago
  There's a tmbundle (haven't used it yet): http://github.com/nullstyle/clojure-tmbundle http://github.com/nullstyle/clojure-tmbundle Although the installation doc says it uses the REPL and screen (and ruby, though that's mostly true for most tmbundles).