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Correlation is not causation. The fact no wars between EU members happened (yet) during the existence of the EU is note necessarily caused by the existence or t
by kodfodrasz 10y ago
Correlation is not causation.
The fact no wars between EU members happened (yet) during the existence of the EU is note necessarily caused by the existence or the very nature of the EU.
Also given the recent proceedings in the course of the EU all member countries are better off with the whole house of cards collapsing. We can always build a new alliance, but this USSR style direction is not the least promising.
Take a look at the Greek, what a success the EU was for them. Take a look at the handling of the Greek dept problem, how well the EU reagated to that. Take a look at the migrant crisis: the western EU members criticized Hungary for defending its borders, which it is obliged to by the schengen treaty. The leaders did not play by the rules they have set, yet they talk about more centralization should do the trick.
The European Council is not elected by the people, and is not accountable. Also does not show ability to control this imbecile of a superpower.
This EU must die for its architectural problems. Just as the USSR had to die. I beleive this will also happen without violence, as there is no common military force under the control of the "leaders".
I also beleive, that the European people, even those voting leave, have a wish to be united. But maybe some beleive we are first British, and second European, and they do not wish to sacrafice their local values for some abstract European or global values. Yet they do not feel bad about the other Europeans.
Europe has longer, and different history than the USA, and most importantly, though often forgotten, most European nations have made huge saccrifices for their freedom, for their very existence as a nation.
In short, to save the EU: "everything must change so that everything can stay the same"
- lossolo 10y agoLook at Greek? You know why greeks were in situation in which they ended? Because this was their own fault, they had 18 gardeners employed in one of their local government building on payroll but only one was needed. They paid all government employees bonus for coming to work on time, bonus for washing hands, bonus for being all day in work. Then they made "creative books" which made this disaster from the eyes of others. > The European Council is not elected by the people, and is not accountable. European Council is not elected by people? Please read more about EU before claiming such things which are not true - "The European Council is the institution of the European Union (EU) that comprises the heads of state or government of the member states, along with President of the European Council and the President of the European Commission."
- kodfodrasz 10y agoThe Greek debt problem was not handled by the EU. The Greek have their part in that problem, but the EU is just as responsible, for letting the situation get there, and also for forcing the Euro and integration in a pace faster than organically happening. The greek economy and books were audited by EU agencies. If a bug slips through reviews and tests in a software project, than the bug is the responsibility of the author? I think only partly, actually many are involved, and the process is the main problem usually. > European Council is not elected by people? True, I have mistaken it for the European Commission.
- lossolo 10y agoYou still write things that are not true. Using your analogy what happened is that they didn't gave them code with bug they gave them code to review that they didn't even use.