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The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anything-and-everythin
by alanh 10y ago
The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anything-and-everything/shame-on-you-comodo-t115958.0.html;msg837411#msg837411 https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth...
> Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another enterprise via their tweets. It won't work! This is not wild west and there are legal framework and courts for these kind of disputes. So lets all stop being the judge and jury and follow the law!
> One a separate note, since we are talking about protecting intellectual property, there is no law protecting business models. When Lets Encrypt copied Comodo's 90 day free ssl business model, we could not protect it. Lets encrypt could have chosen 57 days, 30 days or any other number for the lifetime of their certificates. But they chose to use Comodo's 90 day Free SSL model that we established in the market place for over 9 years!!! We invented the 90 day free ssl. Why are they copying our business model of 90 day free ssl is the question! Comodo has provided and built a Free SSL model that give SSL for free for 90 days since 2007! Trying to piggy back on our business model and copying our model of giving certificates for 90 days for free is not ethical. They clearly wanted to leverage the market of Free SSL users we had helped create and establish and that's why they created exactly same 90 day free ssl offering. So why did they choose 90 day????? That is the question!
> What they have is nothing new. We have been giving 90 day free certificates since 2007. Unlike them, our certificates are managed, even the free ones, so that consumers are protected. If a certificate is being used maliciously we revoke it. They don't! How is that making internet safer??? Actually consumer are less safe with their certificate because if it is used maliciously they don't revoke (Unmanaged)!
> Lets get the facts right guys! We are the good guys that have been giving free SSL certificates since 2007 and managing them!
- Nadya 10y agoAnd this is why large companies rarely like (or sometimes even let) the CEO speak before it goes through a PR team.
- tacone 10y agoHe's not being malicious, just outright stupid.
- davesque 10y agoYes, I read that on the forum. So I guess he's straight up admitting that he has no legal ground to stand on.
- nojvek 10y agoThat reads like a high school breakup text. Let's encrypt is always free. Just needs to be renewed right? What's with the 90day free invention he's talking about?
- itsnotlupus 10y agoI think he's trying to argue that Comodo's radical business idea of "you can get a free certificate for 90 days before having to buy it" has been literally stolen by Let's Encrypt's "You can renew your free certificate every 90 days forever." Because both approaches are critically centered around the number 90, or something.. It's embarrassing. I hope that CEO is good at other things.
- oakwhiz 10y agoOh no, someone shut down my money printer.
- profmonocle 10y agoHe's conveniently leaving out that once your 90-day Comodo cert expires, you can't ever get another one for that domain. It's essentially a free trial for their paid certs. Let's Encrypt certs can be (and are intended to be) renewed indefinitely.