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Not surprising, since Randy Wolfe apparently thought it was different enough and the suit only went forward after he passed away.

Joeboy 10y ago
Well he did apparently feel they'd ripped him off, although he didn't take legal action over it.
fletchowns 10y ago
That's not what I remember hearing on...NPR I think it was? He just thought there was no way he could ever go up against a massive band like Led Zeppelin and win. As far as I remember from the segment, he died wishing they had at least given him credit for the riff.
vajrabum 10y ago
I always figured Davey Graham is the one that should have complained about Jimmy Page. See here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeejHJxGjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeejHJxGjs at around 20 seconds. That riff is a straight copy. But even that is probably not a reasonable basis for a copyright suit.
- daveguy 10y ago
  I don't know what you are listening to, but even the riff is not the same. It takes more than three notes to be a plagiarism.
  - Joeboy 10y ago
    They're listening to the intro, which has a lot more similarity to the intro of Stairway than three notes. I've no idea if Jimmy Page plagiarised it or even heard it, but it is very similar. Same key, same arpeggiated chords, very similar bit where it transitions from the arpeggios to strummed chords. If I heard that intro and didn't know about Davy Graham I'd think someone was doing a jazzed-up version of Stairway.
    - daveguy 10y ago
      Relevant Stairway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPvNqOb6RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPvNqOb6RA Relevant Taurus: https://youtu.be/xd8AVbwB_6E?t=44s https://youtu.be/xd8AVbwB_6E?t=44s If you listen to taurus not having heard stairway recently it might be vaguely reminiscent. If you hear them side by side it is obvious they are different, which the jury could easily hear.
      - Joeboy 10y ago
        Weren't we talking about Davey Graham?
        daveguy 10y ago
        I'm a dumbass. I really didn't know what he was listening to -- I had just gotten through listening to the songs in the lawsuit. However, the same applies to Davey Graham. I don't hear anything in the posted video that is even three notes close.

Joeboy 10y ago

Well he did apparently feel they'd ripped him off, although he didn't take legal action over it.

fletchowns 10y ago

That's not what I remember hearing on...NPR I think it was? He just thought there was no way he could ever go up against a massive band like Led Zeppelin and win. As far as I remember from the segment, he died wishing they had at least given him credit for the riff.

vajrabum 10y ago

I always figured Davey Graham is the one that should have complained about Jimmy Page. See here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeejHJxGjs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWeejHJxGjs at around 20 seconds. That riff is a straight copy. But even that is probably not a reasonable basis for a copyright suit.

daveguy 10y ago
I don't know what you are listening to, but even the riff is not the same. It takes more than three notes to be a plagiarism.
- Joeboy 10y ago
  They're listening to the intro, which has a lot more similarity to the intro of Stairway than three notes. I've no idea if Jimmy Page plagiarised it or even heard it, but it is very similar. Same key, same arpeggiated chords, very similar bit where it transitions from the arpeggios to strummed chords. If I heard that intro and didn't know about Davy Graham I'd think someone was doing a jazzed-up version of Stairway.
  - daveguy 10y ago
    Relevant Stairway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPvNqOb6RA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pPvNqOb6RA Relevant Taurus: https://youtu.be/xd8AVbwB_6E?t=44s https://youtu.be/xd8AVbwB_6E?t=44s If you listen to taurus not having heard stairway recently it might be vaguely reminiscent. If you hear them side by side it is obvious they are different, which the jury could easily hear.
    - Joeboy 10y ago
      Weren't we talking about Davey Graham?
      - daveguy 10y ago
        I'm a dumbass. I really didn't know what he was listening to -- I had just gotten through listening to the songs in the lawsuit. However, the same applies to Davey Graham. I don't hear anything in the posted video that is even three notes close.