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Great news from influxdata. Though all of these features (clustering, monitoring, and data elxploration) could be released with standard edition. The start of I

by zenlot 10y ago

Great news from influxdata. Though all of these features (clustering, monitoring, and data elxploration) could be released with standard edition. The start of InfluxDB looked very promising, not sure if people feel the same with the chosen marketing model.

Thaxll 10y ago
Developers need money too.
- zenlot 10y ago
  Yes, and there are many ways to achieve the goal. Some of them are listed in "pandemicsyn" comment. I still think, that the plans, especially with clustering side should have been announced earlier, instead of starting it as an open source, attracting audience, then dropping and creating just enterprise version.
maerF0x0 10y ago
What other method would you suggest they become a sustainable business?
- pandemicsyn 10y ago
  Prof services, training, dev support, production/tech/enterprise support, hosted services, managed on prem, fancy management interface (ala Datastax)...
  - gshulegaard 10y ago
    Honestly, this is a very fine line to balance. If you open source your core technology, a lot of those "services" you listed are open to competition from other companies with little to no barrier to entry.
  - akbar501 10y ago
    There is a lot of discussion going on currently around OSS business models. The general consensus is that support contracts / professional services / support do not monetize well enough to grow a large business. Hosted services is a viable business model. The risk here is to ensure that your product, if successful, cannot simply be deployed by Amazon. Dual licensing has been one response to the Amazon risk. Admin tools alone are also thought to be difficult to monetize at sufficient value to grow a large business. While DataStax has a nice UI, they have built a data platform with Cassandra the core, much like Cloudera has built a data platform with HDFS/HBase at the core. Personally, I view the data platforms as prepackaged and productized SI (which is very valuable..
darkr 10y ago
I think some people feel disgruntled because the development of clustering started as open source and was some way down the road to being production ready, then it was removed and moved to the enterprise version only. I was planning a metrics architecture around influx; but following that announcement, influx was out of the picture. Had I known from the start that clustering was going to be enterprise only, likely I still wouldn't have chosen it, but my takeaway thought would have been "wow, this is cool, shame clustering is enterprise only". Now I just feel a mild sense of deflation. I don't blame them for going down this route (we all have to eat), but I think had that descision been made earlier it would have looked better on them.

by zenlot 10y ago

Thaxll 10y ago

Developers need money too.

zenlot 10y ago
Yes, and there are many ways to achieve the goal. Some of them are listed in "pandemicsyn" comment. I still think, that the plans, especially with clustering side should have been announced earlier, instead of starting it as an open source, attracting audience, then dropping and creating just enterprise version.

maerF0x0 10y ago

What other method would you suggest they become a sustainable business?

pandemicsyn 10y ago
Prof services, training, dev support, production/tech/enterprise support, hosted services, managed on prem, fancy management interface (ala Datastax)...
- gshulegaard 10y ago
  Honestly, this is a very fine line to balance. If you open source your core technology, a lot of those "services" you listed are open to competition from other companies with little to no barrier to entry.
- akbar501 10y ago
  There is a lot of discussion going on currently around OSS business models. The general consensus is that support contracts / professional services / support do not monetize well enough to grow a large business. Hosted services is a viable business model. The risk here is to ensure that your product, if successful, cannot simply be deployed by Amazon. Dual licensing has been one response to the Amazon risk. Admin tools alone are also thought to be difficult to monetize at sufficient value to grow a large business. While DataStax has a nice UI, they have built a data platform with Cassandra the core, much like Cloudera has built a data platform with HDFS/HBase at the core. Personally, I view the data platforms as prepackaged and productized SI (which is very valuable..

darkr 10y ago

I think some people feel disgruntled because the development of clustering started as open source and was some way down the road to being production ready, then it was removed and moved to the enterprise version only. I was planning a metrics architecture around influx; but following that announcement, influx was out of the picture. Had I known from the start that clustering was going to be enterprise only, likely I still wouldn't have chosen it, but my takeaway thought would have been "wow, this is cool, shame clustering is enterprise only". Now I just feel a mild sense of deflation. I don't blame them for going down this route (we all have to eat), but I think had that descision been made earlier it would have looked better on them.