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David here, founder, CEO, and extremely stubborn with my perspective. To echo what Armin and others are saying, we're going to prove that you can build a compan

by zeeg 10y ago

David here, founder, CEO, and extremely stubborn with my perspective. To echo what Armin and others are saying, we're going to prove that you can build a company around an open source product without turning it into crippleware. There will be things that end up closed source (there already are, like our billing code), but Sentry itself won't be one of them. We're in a fortunate position in that we've been an established (albeit, small) business for a number of years now, so we're able to build off of that existing success and good will.

chrisabrams 10y ago
I have been using Sentry since Cramer showed it to me for del.lic.ous way back in the day, and I can concur that he means what he says. Now if only he'd remove that stubbornness towards Node.js... :P
sytse 10y ago
Great answer David. At GitLab we self host Sentry and love the product. I understand that pilif has reservations, some open source projects prioritized profit over stewardship after raising money. What we did at GitLab is write down how we think about this in https://about.gitlab.com/about/#stewardship https://about.gitlab.com/about/#stewardship You may or may not want to do something like that at some point. Anyway, lots of success with Sentry, the product is great and the upcoming features sound awesome.
- zeeg 10y ago
  Huge props to GitLab. Definitely ahead of us organizationally, but one of the few companies that I pay attention to in the space that seems to be similarly aligned.
  - sytse 10y ago
    Thanks for the kind words Zeeg. Please let me know anytime we can help with anything.
logicallee 10y ago
is there anything structural about the deal that would allow this? even bill gates was ousted from microsoft as chairman[1]. Of course, by then he held only 4.5% of the $277B company, so he was only its single largest shareholder and only held about $12 billion in Microsoft stock, a pittance. if anyone is serious about stubbornly sticking with their perspective, they need to have the structure in place to do so, in my opinion. regardless, good luck going forward: it's bound to be a good outcome for you. [1] http://www.idigitaltimes.com/bill-gates-fired-microsoft-investors-pushing-chairman-step-down-following-steve-ballmers-retirement http://www.idigitaltimes.com/bill-gates-fired-microsoft-inve...

by zeeg 10y ago

chrisabrams 10y ago

I have been using Sentry since Cramer showed it to me for del.lic.ous way back in the day, and I can concur that he means what he says. Now if only he'd remove that stubbornness towards Node.js... :P

sytse 10y ago

Great answer David. At GitLab we self host Sentry and love the product. I understand that pilif has reservations, some open source projects prioritized profit over stewardship after raising money. What we did at GitLab is write down how we think about this in https://about.gitlab.com/about/#stewardship https://about.gitlab.com/about/#stewardship You may or may not want to do something like that at some point. Anyway, lots of success with Sentry, the product is great and the upcoming features sound awesome.

zeeg 10y ago
Huge props to GitLab. Definitely ahead of us organizationally, but one of the few companies that I pay attention to in the space that seems to be similarly aligned.
- sytse 10y ago
  Thanks for the kind words Zeeg. Please let me know anytime we can help with anything.

logicallee 10y ago

is there anything structural about the deal that would allow this? even bill gates was ousted from microsoft as chairman[1]. Of course, by then he held only 4.5% of the $277B company, so he was only its single largest shareholder and only held about $12 billion in Microsoft stock, a pittance. if anyone is serious about stubbornly sticking with their perspective, they need to have the structure in place to do so, in my opinion. regardless, good luck going forward: it's bound to be a good outcome for you. [1] http://www.idigitaltimes.com/bill-gates-fired-microsoft-investors-pushing-chairman-step-down-following-steve-ballmers-retirement http://www.idigitaltimes.com/bill-gates-fired-microsoft-inve...