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Heh, funny to read this on the day my moving van arrives to get my things outta here! It's a little sad, but we simply got fed up with the standard of living he

Heh, funny to read this on the day my moving van arrives to get my things outta here! It's a little sad, but we simply got fed up with the standard of living here. And, the Bay Area just feels mismanaged. Getting around is a royal pain. After living in Vienna, I was amazed at people who thought Bart was great. Really? I found it dirty, slow, and crazy expensive. Of course everything is just crazy expensive. A beer garden opened up nearby, with a few nice tables and some decent beers. 2 beers will cost you about $16. It's like the entire economy is about paying rent. I remember going to heuriger in Vienna and grabbing a bottle of totally decent wine for about 8 EUR. I'm not sure 64k people out of 38 million counts as an exodus, though. There's a whole lot of immigration going on.

musha68k 10y ago
I don't know when the wave actually broke but I was very disillusioned by the vibes of the bay area when I stayed for GDC in 2009. It seemed like they drove out most of the hippies a long time ago, more often than not people were just acting, very superficially and with a creepy adherence to a lost cultural heritage that felt more like selling out (get your shrink-wrapped Jerry Garcia T-shirt and GTFO). To make things even more depressing one could feel the omnipresence of a rampantly ignorant / myopic tech monoculture. I remember that I felt very relieved when I got back to Vienna.. :/
- Kalium 10y ago
  The hippies either aged out or bought property decades ago. They were a real thing for a couple of years at most. The rest is myopic and ignorant nostalgia.
  - planteen 10y ago
    Boulder seems like this, too.
- blendo 10y ago
  There was _way_ too much couture tie-dye at the Haight-Ashbury street fair a few weeks ago. But then I stopped by the California Historical Radio Society booth (Radio Day is July 23 in Alameda!), and spoke with them abuot their "KSAN Live Jive CD Project", and all the good memories came flooding back. If you're curious about the Bay Area, read David Talbot's wonderful history, "Season of the Witch".
cylinder 10y ago
Median income in Vienna is around half of the Bay Area, so prices will always be higher, even if the very valid issues you mentioned were solved.
kamaal 10y ago
>>It's like the entire economy is about paying rent. To be more precise, paying for real estate. You can't buy a decent home anywhere for less $1 million and property taxes are crazy.

musha68k 10y ago

I don't know when the wave actually broke but I was very disillusioned by the vibes of the bay area when I stayed for GDC in 2009. It seemed like they drove out most of the hippies a long time ago, more often than not people were just acting, very superficially and with a creepy adherence to a lost cultural heritage that felt more like selling out (get your shrink-wrapped Jerry Garcia T-shirt and GTFO). To make things even more depressing one could feel the omnipresence of a rampantly ignorant / myopic tech monoculture. I remember that I felt very relieved when I got back to Vienna.. :/

Kalium 10y ago
The hippies either aged out or bought property decades ago. They were a real thing for a couple of years at most. The rest is myopic and ignorant nostalgia.
- planteen 10y ago
  Boulder seems like this, too.
blendo 10y ago
There was _way_ too much couture tie-dye at the Haight-Ashbury street fair a few weeks ago. But then I stopped by the California Historical Radio Society booth (Radio Day is July 23 in Alameda!), and spoke with them abuot their "KSAN Live Jive CD Project", and all the good memories came flooding back. If you're curious about the Bay Area, read David Talbot's wonderful history, "Season of the Witch".

cylinder 10y ago

Median income in Vienna is around half of the Bay Area, so prices will always be higher, even if the very valid issues you mentioned were solved.

kamaal 10y ago

>>It's like the entire economy is about paying rent. To be more precise, paying for real estate. You can't buy a decent home anywhere for less $1 million and property taxes are crazy.