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Other western democracies did not struggled through what America struggled through to free itself from the British monarchy in order to establish democracy. Be

Other western democracies did not struggled through what America struggled through to free itself from the British monarchy in order to establish democracy. Because of that, these western democracies do not value the importance of arms the way Americans value it. Arms of the American people is the basis for which democracy in America was built on.

locopati 10y ago
Right. Most of those countries in Europe have never been threatened by invasion or fought off invaders. Oh. Wait. They have. This notion of an antagonistic relationship to the world around us is childish and has to end. The small-minded fears of a minority of this country are inflicting greater fear and damage on the rest of us.
- DefaultUserHN 10y ago
  They see things differently than Americans. Unlike Americans, Europeans countries do not see the value and importance of guns, even after they got conquered or have to fight off invaders. >The small-minded fears of a minority of this country are inflicting greater fear and damage on the rest of us. The same thing could be said about anti-gun people. These people fear guns, and because of that irrational fear, they're trying to infringe other people's fundemental right to self-defense. You don't want a gun. Cool. But I want a gun. I am not forcing you to own a gun, so why are you forcing me to not own a gun? How about we let each person decides what he wants to do instead? You don't buy a gun. And I buy a gun. It's call Freedom.
  - semi-extrinsic 10y ago
    > Unlike Americans, Europeans countries do not see the value and importance of guns, even after they got conquered or have to fight off invaders. Sure we do. We just have an actual system for managing this, making sure weapons that are actually useful for defense are quickly available to those actually trained to use them in resistance fighting. Compared to the American system of wild-west-style anarchy, where people with little to no training in resistance tacticts buy a wide variety of weapons more or less suitable for resistance fighting and with a huge variety of mutually-incompatible ammo, who do you think is better prepared? Here in Norway, for instance, people who serve a year in the National Guard get issued a service weapon (currently HK416, used to be AG3) and a decent amount of ammo when they are finished. In the olden days, these were stored at home, but today we have many decentralised storage facilities around the country which spring into action if the Russians come.

locopati 10y ago

Right. Most of those countries in Europe have never been threatened by invasion or fought off invaders. Oh. Wait. They have. This notion of an antagonistic relationship to the world around us is childish and has to end. The small-minded fears of a minority of this country are inflicting greater fear and damage on the rest of us.

DefaultUserHN 10y ago
They see things differently than Americans. Unlike Americans, Europeans countries do not see the value and importance of guns, even after they got conquered or have to fight off invaders. >The small-minded fears of a minority of this country are inflicting greater fear and damage on the rest of us. The same thing could be said about anti-gun people. These people fear guns, and because of that irrational fear, they're trying to infringe other people's fundemental right to self-defense. You don't want a gun. Cool. But I want a gun. I am not forcing you to own a gun, so why are you forcing me to not own a gun? How about we let each person decides what he wants to do instead? You don't buy a gun. And I buy a gun. It's call Freedom.
- semi-extrinsic 10y ago
  > Unlike Americans, Europeans countries do not see the value and importance of guns, even after they got conquered or have to fight off invaders. Sure we do. We just have an actual system for managing this, making sure weapons that are actually useful for defense are quickly available to those actually trained to use them in resistance fighting. Compared to the American system of wild-west-style anarchy, where people with little to no training in resistance tacticts buy a wide variety of weapons more or less suitable for resistance fighting and with a huge variety of mutually-incompatible ammo, who do you think is better prepared? Here in Norway, for instance, people who serve a year in the National Guard get issued a service weapon (currently HK416, used to be AG3) and a decent amount of ammo when they are finished. In the olden days, these were stored at home, but today we have many decentralised storage facilities around the country which spring into action if the Russians come.