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100% agree with all of this. While I'm not saying I would personally deny a trans person staying at my Airbnb, at the end of the day, it's the owner's decision.

100% agree with all of this. While I'm not saying I would personally deny a trans person staying at my Airbnb, at the end of the day, it's the owner's decision. This isn't a public service where people of different race/color/religion/background/etc. are getting denied. It's all private property. It's 100% up to the owner what he/she/they want to use their property for, regardless of how ignorant/racist/stupid/etc. that choice may be.

panzagl 10y ago
A hotel is private property too, doesn't mean they can discriminate based on race in the US.
- MichaelGG 10y ago
  Hotels have regulations that private homes don't. Though many of AirBnB's "hosts" would probably qualify under more regulations than they actually follow.
  - panzagl 10y ago
    I guess I'm assuming the primary use of airbnb is 'rent my house', not 'stay in my guest room'. By offering both at the same place they really do seem to be muddying the waters.
    - MichaelGG 10y ago
      I don't think so. It's more like "rent my house/residence" versus "rent one of many apartments I keep available and run like a hotel".
- djschnei 10y ago
  Since I am not a god, and every person has a right to self ownership (extending to their property), a hotel owner has every right to decide by whatever criteria they see fit who uses their property. Just as I have every right to decide my own criteria for which hotels I would like to do business with (bigoted hotels wouldn't meet that criteria). Every person has the right to life, liberty, and property.
  - mikeyouse 10y ago
    You're being downvoted because you are objectively wrong. 42 U.S. Code § 2000a - Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation > All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin. > Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action: > (1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence; https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a Feel free to read up on Green Books -- Up until the 1960's, black Americans had to plan their trips out far in advance to avoid service refusals, discrimination, or outright violence at hotels throughout the country.
    - djschnei 10y ago
      Hmmm, I made no statement about current laws. I stated my beliefs on natural rights. To concede the general power of government to redress private discrimination through legislation would be to concede virtually unlimited power to the government. Humans, as independent actors, have other means to fight bigotry than infringing on one of a person's most sacred rights. You can't legislate morality.

panzagl 10y ago

A hotel is private property too, doesn't mean they can discriminate based on race in the US.

MichaelGG 10y ago
Hotels have regulations that private homes don't. Though many of AirBnB's "hosts" would probably qualify under more regulations than they actually follow.
- panzagl 10y ago
  I guess I'm assuming the primary use of airbnb is 'rent my house', not 'stay in my guest room'. By offering both at the same place they really do seem to be muddying the waters.
  - MichaelGG 10y ago
    I don't think so. It's more like "rent my house/residence" versus "rent one of many apartments I keep available and run like a hotel".
djschnei 10y ago
Since I am not a god, and every person has a right to self ownership (extending to their property), a hotel owner has every right to decide by whatever criteria they see fit who uses their property. Just as I have every right to decide my own criteria for which hotels I would like to do business with (bigoted hotels wouldn't meet that criteria). Every person has the right to life, liberty, and property.
- mikeyouse 10y ago
  You're being downvoted because you are objectively wrong. 42 U.S. Code § 2000a - Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation > All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin. > Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action: > (1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence; https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a Feel free to read up on Green Books -- Up until the 1960's, black Americans had to plan their trips out far in advance to avoid service refusals, discrimination, or outright violence at hotels throughout the country.
  - djschnei 10y ago
    Hmmm, I made no statement about current laws. I stated my beliefs on natural rights. To concede the general power of government to redress private discrimination through legislation would be to concede virtually unlimited power to the government. Humans, as independent actors, have other means to fight bigotry than infringing on one of a person's most sacred rights. You can't legislate morality.