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That rant is from 2000 indeed, where you could still like Java the language. Back then (late '90s) Java the language was nothing like what we have today. If you
by hernan7 17y ago
That rant is from 2000 indeed, where you could still like Java the language. Back then (late '90s) Java the language was nothing like what we have today. If your first language was, I don't know, C or Perl, you could read some short-ish Java book (or the Sun tutorials) and learn enough to write a little applet to spiff up your website.
These days learning Java, with all the stuff that has been added to the language (J2EE, beans, annotations, what have you), is mostly pointless. Lots of better alternatives. Unless you know you are going to be working on some big pre-existing codebase, or want to get a job working on one.
- Zak 17y agoJava from the late '90s still had the characteristic that most hackers I know dislike in it today; it was intentionally designed not to be as powerful as it could be. Interestingly, Python seems to be well-liked by hackers despite sharing some of that characteristic[0]. It may be that the motivation is different. In Java it seems to be "you can't be trusted with sharp tools" while in Python it's more along the lines of "code written that way isn't beautiful", but I think it's more of a fine line than people realize. I've managed to get a bit off-topic. Maybe I should write a blog post on this instead. [0] http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=98196 http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=98196