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> I don't know in which world is selling a new phone of 135k units by a newcomer in the hardware/phone industry is considered a flop. It's a flop in the world

by teej 17y ago

> I don't know in which world is selling a new phone of 135k units by a newcomer in the hardware/phone industry is considered a flop. It's a flop in the world where a newcomer introduces a new phone with proprietary hardware and software, on a single carrier, at an insane price point, and sells hundreds of thousands of them in the first week. We live in that world now.

pavs 17y ago
Apple was a newcomer in hardware industry before iphone? Edit: Remember MotoROKR? How many millions did they sell? Exactly!
- teej 17y ago
  Apple was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware the same way Google was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware. Saying Google is a newcomer to hardware is simple incorrect. They have the most sophisticated data centers in the world. They actively sell a hardware search solution. Google is not new to hardware. I understand that Google's hardware background isn't the same as Apple's. My point is that mobile hardware was just as new to both companies when they entered the space. Apple simply executed better than Google did.
  - pavs 17y ago
    > Apple was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware the same way Google was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware. Saying Google is a newcomer to hardware is simple incorrect. They have the most sophisticated data centers in the world. They actively sell a hardware search solution. Google is not new to hardware. Sorry. But you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about. You want to talk about Apple's mobile hardware experience before iphone? What was macbook? What were those 3/4 generations of ipods before iphone was released? Do you consider an ipod a mobile device? Do you consider a macbook mobile device? How can you say Apple was newcomer to consumer mobile device before iphone release? First ipod was released in 2001, first iphone was released in 2007. They had ~6 years of experience of selling and manufacturing mobile devices before they released a consumer phone. What "consumer mobile device" did Google sell before Nexus One? Comparing Datacenters to consumer mobile device is so weak, I am not going to even bother.

by teej 17y ago

pavs 17y ago

Apple was a newcomer in hardware industry before iphone? Edit: Remember MotoROKR? How many millions did they sell? Exactly!

teej 17y ago
Apple was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware the same way Google was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware. Saying Google is a newcomer to hardware is simple incorrect. They have the most sophisticated data centers in the world. They actively sell a hardware search solution. Google is not new to hardware. I understand that Google's hardware background isn't the same as Apple's. My point is that mobile hardware was just as new to both companies when they entered the space. Apple simply executed better than Google did.
- pavs 17y ago
  > Apple was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware the same way Google was a newcomer to consumer mobile hardware. Saying Google is a newcomer to hardware is simple incorrect. They have the most sophisticated data centers in the world. They actively sell a hardware search solution. Google is not new to hardware. Sorry. But you have absolutely zero idea what you are talking about. You want to talk about Apple's mobile hardware experience before iphone? What was macbook? What were those 3/4 generations of ipods before iphone was released? Do you consider an ipod a mobile device? Do you consider a macbook mobile device? How can you say Apple was newcomer to consumer mobile device before iphone release? First ipod was released in 2001, first iphone was released in 2007. They had ~6 years of experience of selling and manufacturing mobile devices before they released a consumer phone. What "consumer mobile device" did Google sell before Nexus One? Comparing Datacenters to consumer mobile device is so weak, I am not going to even bother.