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Coming from australia and not familiar at all with Webpass... is the latency low? ie. could people use this for gaming internet connections?
by bobbles 10y ago
Coming from australia and not familiar at all with Webpass... is the latency low? ie. could people use this for gaming internet connections?
- djcapelis 10y agoYes. It's point to point wireless to a building and Ethernet from there. No real latency issue there.
- r1ch 10y agoCurious what they're using for backhaul wireless links if they're offering 1 gbps service. Not many solutions can handle that kind of speed.
- rayiner 10y agoLooks like millimeter wave: https://webpass.net/about_network https://webpass.net/about_network.
- jauer 10y agoRight now you can get away with a lot of "oversubscription" in MDU situations when you have 1-2Gbps to the building (typical millimeter-wave radio speeds). I wouldn't be surprised if they have buildings fed with 1x1Gbps going to 40x1Gbps clients. (hand waving about Erlangs and queuing theory here) E.g. if you assume everyone is downloading a DVD image from a fast mirror (CentOS install DVD or something), they probably won't all start the download at the same time so there's a really good chance one user will finish their download before someone else starts theirs. My MDU users rarely crack 1Mbps on a 30-day 95th percentile basis.
- gkop 10y agoAre you preparing for popular streaming video products pushing 4K content?
- jauer 10y agoA popular model is to use wireless until enough you have enough customers in a building to justify building out fiber so you can supply more bandwidth. Even without fiber you could have a 50 unit building with half the units streaming 4K@30Mbps simultaneously and have enough bandwidth left over for typical web use.
- curun1r 10y agoFormer Webpass customer here. I never used it for gaming, but the highest latency I ever got from SpeedTest with an SF server was 8ms and it was usually 3-4. My building was on the 100mbps plan and the actuals were ~90mbps down, ~65mbps up. I'd hope that connection would be good enough for gaming.
- kbar13 10y agoafter like 100kbps speed does not matter for gaming. you need a good quality connection (stable latency + no packet loss)
- boulos 10y agoI've got about 15ms to google.com (and the silly speedtest.net page reports 4ms for whatever they chose nearby).
- jeff18 10y agoThe latency to the West Coast Battle.net server is a very steady 12ms according to the Starcraft in-game UI.
- walrus01 10y agoBased on what I know of Webpass' network architecture, I'd be very surprised if latency was >5ms average from any of their individual on-net buildings back to any of the major IX points where they have routers in the SF Bay area.
- pbarnes_1 10y agoAs someone who used to live in Sydney and now in SF with Webpass... I can tell you that Webpass would be what a proper NBN rollout would look like. It's kind of amazing. It only costs $60/month and you just get an ethernet drop. No login, no metering, no shaping. Example latency: admin@RT-AC5300-E6A0:/tmp/home/root# ping -c 5 8.8.8.8 PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=0 ttl=55 time=3.526 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=1 ttl=55 time=3.559 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=2 ttl=55 time=3.547 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=3 ttl=55 time=3.518 ms 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: seq=4 ttl=55 time=3.584 ms --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0% packet loss round-trip min/avg/max = 3.518/3.546/3.584 ms
- rosege 10y agoSomeone will probably roll something like this out in the metro areas and it will eat the NBN
- pbarnes_1 10y agoWebpass only serves multiple dwelling units AFAIK. You can already order microwave and fixed fiber links in Sydney CBD, Pyrmont, etc but they cost a lot more than $60/m. The NBN was a solid idea. Execution is always kind of the issue though.
- tacticus 10y ago> was :( such a sad truth.
- ClassyJacket 10y agoI doubt it. I'm no expert, but isn't it illegal to provide non-NBN internet to any house that has NBN? I recall someone complaining that they had no internet at all for months, because the NBN wire got hooked up to their house, but not plugged into anything at the other end - then their internet company was legally obliged to disconnect their DSL because technically they had an NBN cable - it just wasn't plugged in to anything. Of course this would be a good law IF we were getting proper fibre NBN (and the above technicality got seen to). Just like we don't want multiple companies running power lines to one house.
- teen 10y agoWeird, I had Webpass for a year and was using it for a ton of gaming, and had no idea it was using wireless. It was really consistent and fast.
- firloop 10y agoI live in SF and have the 100mbps Webpass. Over my wifi, I get pings of <5ms to AWS us-west-1.