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Is this sort of thing typically prosecuted when it's unintentional? I would guess not.

by eli 10y ago

AnimalMuppet 10y ago
What the article says? No, though people might get fired. cwkoss seems to be referring to Hillary running her own personal email server, though. That's absolutely not unintentional. It's not what the article is talking about, though.
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protomyth 10y ago
The prosecution would be in violation of Federal Records Act. Existence of the server in the first place and loss of e-mails is the problem, not the break-in. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-inspector-general-report-223553 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-... http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6c/oig-report.pdf http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6...
- res0nat0r 10y ago
  I'm pretty sure it needs to show that she knowingly and willingly transmitted marked classified data she knew was classified to persons she explicitly knew didn't have clearance while showing blatant disregard for security. There hasn't been any evidence so far of this.
  - protomyth 10y ago
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-priva... http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6c/oig-report.pdf http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6...
    - res0nat0r 10y ago
      The bar hasn't been met for her to somehow be indicted no matter how much Reddit wishes it to be true. From the 2nd link: What OIG Recommends: OIG makes eight recommendations. They include issuing enhanced and more frequent guidance on the permissible use of personal email accounts to conduct official business, amending Departmental policies to provide for administrative penalties for failure to comply with records preservation and cybersecurity requirements, and developing a quality assurance plan to address vulnerabilities in records management and preservation. The Department concurred with all of OIG’s recommendations.
      - protomyth 10y ago
        I have a reddit account but don't really comment there so I have no clue about the first line. The OIG report is recommending system changes and doesn't opinion on the criminal. That's what the FBI is doing.
        res0nat0r 10y ago
        I wouldn't hold my breath because I think you will be pretty disappointed.
        protomyth 10y ago
        Let me quote myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11957648 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11957648 > I think she honestly believes she can survive and nothing will come of it. She is probably right. Stop projecting on people what will disappoint us.
        res0nat0r 10y ago
        Then why bother repeatedly trying to point out and imply the FBI is going to find something when there is no evidence thus far of anything like that being the case...?

Is this sort of thing typically prosecuted when it's unintentional? I would guess not.

by eli 10y ago

Is this sort of thing typically prosecuted when it's unintentional? I would guess not.

What the article says? No, though people might get fired. cwkoss seems to be referring to Hillary running her own personal email server, though. That's absolutely not unintentional. It's not what the article is talking about, though.

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protomyth 10y ago

The prosecution would be in violation of Federal Records Act. Existence of the server in the first place and loss of e-mails is the problem, not the break-in. http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-inspector-general-report-223553 http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/hillary-clinton-email-... http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6c/oig-report.pdf http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6...

res0nat0r 10y ago
I'm pretty sure it needs to show that she knowingly and willingly transmitted marked classified data she knew was classified to persons she explicitly knew didn't have clearance while showing blatant disregard for security. There hasn't been any evidence so far of this.
- protomyth 10y ago
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-private-server-wrote-104-emails-the-government-says-are-classified/2016/03/05/11e2ee06-dbd6-11e5-81ae-7491b9b9e7df_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-on-her-priva... http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6c/oig-report.pdf http://static.politico.com/f3/9b/19d29ab14abeb4a30ca2975f1e6...
  - res0nat0r 10y ago
    The bar hasn't been met for her to somehow be indicted no matter how much Reddit wishes it to be true. From the 2nd link: What OIG Recommends: OIG makes eight recommendations. They include issuing enhanced and more frequent guidance on the permissible use of personal email accounts to conduct official business, amending Departmental policies to provide for administrative penalties for failure to comply with records preservation and cybersecurity requirements, and developing a quality assurance plan to address vulnerabilities in records management and preservation. The Department concurred with all of OIG’s recommendations.
    - protomyth 10y ago
      I have a reddit account but don't really comment there so I have no clue about the first line. The OIG report is recommending system changes and doesn't opinion on the criminal. That's what the FBI is doing.
      - res0nat0r 10y ago
        I wouldn't hold my breath because I think you will be pretty disappointed.
        protomyth 10y ago
        Let me quote myself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11957648 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11957648 > I think she honestly believes she can survive and nothing will come of it. She is probably right. Stop projecting on people what will disappoint us.
        res0nat0r 10y ago
        Then why bother repeatedly trying to point out and imply the FBI is going to find something when there is no evidence thus far of anything like that being the case...?