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I have less of an issue with the analog headphone port being gone and more with it being replaced by a proprietary/closed format that nobody else but Apple uses

I have less of an issue with the analog headphone port being gone and more with it being replaced by a proprietary/closed format that nobody else but Apple uses.

tantalor 10y ago
Maybe they will come to their senses and replace the lightning port with USB-C
giancarlostoro 10y ago
I'm waiting for Bluetooth headphones to become more commonplace and affordable. I break so many headsets through accidents so much I rather just go to the dollar store and buy a couple of headphones for $1 and use those whenever I just need to hear something privately, otherwise I could care less for headphones.
- Natanael_L 10y ago
  I've got a cheap Nokia Bluetooth headset with a 3.5mm port and my own earphones. Works great. Used to have the Sony Ericsson MW600 (RIP).
devy 10y ago
Apple's intention is to go all wireless, audio included. The lightning connector earbud is a stop gap between now and the future when wireless audio is decent. John Gruber actually mentions that.
- walrus01 10y ago
  one more damn thing to charge
- mikeash 10y ago
  Where? The only mention of "wireless" is a brief acknowledgement that wireless audio sucks and Apple will ship wired headphones.
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  - devy 10y ago
    "Wireless sucks" - That's the hint. And once the 3.5mm jack is removed, you think Apple would reintroduce it again?
    - mikeash 10y ago
      How does any of that imply that lightning earbuds are just a stopgap?
      - devy 10y ago
        The answer is only a google search away - I follow quite a few Apple news sites. All these news tidbits in the past few months are increasingly clear once you connect all the dots. So no, I don't have a quote for you if you that's what you are looking for. The statement was my original idea crystalized from all the sources. PS: you were the one who down voted me right?
        mikeash 10y ago
        You said that Gruber mentioned it. If this is your own conclusion based on other materials then fine, but that's a different thing. As for downvoting, no, I only downvote people who are blatantly awful (insulting, sexist, whatever), and in any case HN doesn't let you downvote replies to your own comments.
        devy 10y ago
        Ok good to know! The "mentioned" was really referring to the "Wireless audio currently sucks" sentiment. But it will get better.
gibbitz 10y ago
All the better for Apple to make $30 from + licensing others to do so. As noted above the Floppy disk was removed from Macs because no one was using them and they were dying. It was simpler to just not have them and little was missed. Removing the 3.5mm jack is purely to offset their declining sales...

I have less of an issue with the analog headphone port being gone and more with it being replaced by a proprietary/closed format that nobody else but Apple uses.

tantalor 10y ago

Maybe they will come to their senses and replace the lightning port with USB-C

giancarlostoro 10y ago

I'm waiting for Bluetooth headphones to become more commonplace and affordable. I break so many headsets through accidents so much I rather just go to the dollar store and buy a couple of headphones for $1 and use those whenever I just need to hear something privately, otherwise I could care less for headphones.

Natanael_L 10y ago
I've got a cheap Nokia Bluetooth headset with a 3.5mm port and my own earphones. Works great. Used to have the Sony Ericsson MW600 (RIP).

devy 10y ago

Apple's intention is to go all wireless, audio included. The lightning connector earbud is a stop gap between now and the future when wireless audio is decent. John Gruber actually mentions that.

walrus01 10y ago
one more damn thing to charge
mikeash 10y ago
Where? The only mention of "wireless" is a brief acknowledgement that wireless audio sucks and Apple will ship wired headphones.
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- devy 10y ago
  "Wireless sucks" - That's the hint. And once the 3.5mm jack is removed, you think Apple would reintroduce it again?
  - mikeash 10y ago
    How does any of that imply that lightning earbuds are just a stopgap?
    - devy 10y ago
      The answer is only a google search away - I follow quite a few Apple news sites. All these news tidbits in the past few months are increasingly clear once you connect all the dots. So no, I don't have a quote for you if you that's what you are looking for. The statement was my original idea crystalized from all the sources. PS: you were the one who down voted me right?
      - mikeash 10y ago
        You said that Gruber mentioned it. If this is your own conclusion based on other materials then fine, but that's a different thing. As for downvoting, no, I only downvote people who are blatantly awful (insulting, sexist, whatever), and in any case HN doesn't let you downvote replies to your own comments.
        devy 10y ago
        Ok good to know! The "mentioned" was really referring to the "Wireless audio currently sucks" sentiment. But it will get better.

gibbitz 10y ago

All the better for Apple to make $30 from + licensing others to do so. As noted above the Floppy disk was removed from Macs because no one was using them and they were dying. It was simpler to just not have them and little was missed. Removing the 3.5mm jack is purely to offset their declining sales...