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For those confused like myself, this is about Eve, an excel-like development environment from the person who brought you LightTable. This is not about Eve Onlin

by teej 10y ago

For those confused like myself, this is about Eve, an excel-like development environment from the person who brought you LightTable. This is not about Eve Online.

Duelist 10y ago
Thanks. It didn't help that they were talking about moons and planets.
- zubairq 10y ago
  Yes I can see how the moons and planets could be confusing. They have a bigger range of examples now and also the ui has changed a lot As well
  - stcredzero 10y ago
    The more pressing question: Are there any systems with good agents that won't immediately be overrun by a large alliance?
niij 10y ago
> excel-like development environment Not to be confused with the Space themed excel-simulator that is Eve Online.
- deleted 10y ago
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- stcredzero 10y ago
  I detect confusion. It's Excel that excels at simulating Eve Online. It sounds like Eve would make an even better simulator of Eve Online than Excel, however.
- cryptoz 10y ago
  Someone made a parody web game once that was basically a database view of user and game state. You could insert rows and get points and things, it was a hilarious jab at the whole class of games where the gameplay feels like you're just updating cells in a database. I searched for it but couldn't find it just now, anybody know what I mean?
  - Fuzzwah 10y ago
    You triggered my memory of playing this. I also attempted to search for it, but the name won't surface in my mind. I suspect that I'll recall it at 2am tomorrow. Thanks.
huhtenberg 10y ago
Yep, same here. An Eve Online developer's diary would've made for a very interesting read indeed.
- outworlder 10y ago
  But they do have those. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ Some are technical, some are not. But the ones around the time of major tech changes are the most interesting. For instance, when they implemented "time dilation" a few years back.
  - ry_ry 10y ago
    Time dilation is, and remains, the single most beautifully elegant piece of problem solving I think I've seen applied to spaghetti legacy codebase like Eve's, and saved the game from a slow descent into unplayability. Not played for a year or two, but that's coming off the back of a 10 year eve-habit. It always makes me smile when I see it randomly mentioned on HN and suchlike. PS. Free Larkonis Trassler.
  - asimov42 10y ago
    What is also quite interesting about their platform is that they use Stackless Python for the game logic (https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/stackless-python-2.7/ https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/stackless-pyt...). Their whole architecture is quite amazing for how old their tech is and what they have managed to achieve.
coldtea 10y ago
Or from the person who got bored and abandoned LightTable as a mere proof of concept compared to the initial grand ambitions.

by teej 10y ago

For those confused like myself, this is about Eve, an excel-like development environment from the person who brought you LightTable. This is not about Eve Online.

Duelist 10y ago

Thanks. It didn't help that they were talking about moons and planets.

zubairq 10y ago
Yes I can see how the moons and planets could be confusing. They have a bigger range of examples now and also the ui has changed a lot As well
- stcredzero 10y ago
  The more pressing question: Are there any systems with good agents that won't immediately be overrun by a large alliance?

niij 10y ago

> excel-like development environment Not to be confused with the Space themed excel-simulator that is Eve Online.

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stcredzero 10y ago
I detect confusion. It's Excel that excels at simulating Eve Online. It sounds like Eve would make an even better simulator of Eve Online than Excel, however.
cryptoz 10y ago
Someone made a parody web game once that was basically a database view of user and game state. You could insert rows and get points and things, it was a hilarious jab at the whole class of games where the gameplay feels like you're just updating cells in a database. I searched for it but couldn't find it just now, anybody know what I mean?
- Fuzzwah 10y ago
  You triggered my memory of playing this. I also attempted to search for it, but the name won't surface in my mind. I suspect that I'll recall it at 2am tomorrow. Thanks.

huhtenberg 10y ago

Yep, same here. An Eve Online developer's diary would've made for a very interesting read indeed.

outworlder 10y ago
But they do have those. https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/ Some are technical, some are not. But the ones around the time of major tech changes are the most interesting. For instance, when they implemented "time dilation" a few years back.
- ry_ry 10y ago
  Time dilation is, and remains, the single most beautifully elegant piece of problem solving I think I've seen applied to spaghetti legacy codebase like Eve's, and saved the game from a slow descent into unplayability. Not played for a year or two, but that's coming off the back of a 10 year eve-habit. It always makes me smile when I see it randomly mentioned on HN and suchlike. PS. Free Larkonis Trassler.
- asimov42 10y ago
  What is also quite interesting about their platform is that they use Stackless Python for the game logic (https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/stackless-python-2.7/ https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/stackless-pyt...). Their whole architecture is quite amazing for how old their tech is and what they have managed to achieve.

coldtea 10y ago

Or from the person who got bored and abandoned LightTable as a mere proof of concept compared to the initial grand ambitions.