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Is it actually possible to verify that the "1000 yo" honey is actually 1000 years old? Because if not I'm totally relabeling honey I bought at the supermarket a

by Kristine1975 10y ago

Is it actually possible to verify that the "1000 yo" honey is actually 1000 years old? Because if not I'm totally relabeling honey I bought at the supermarket and disrupting the luxury food sector.

gruez 10y ago
Not really "disrupting". More like fraud.
- Kristine1975 10y ago
  Disrupting is all about challenging antiquated regulations :-)
- MichaelBurge 10y ago
  Other ways to disrupt established business are to visit their parking lot and slash everyone's tires, cut power and internet to their company buildings, slander them on public television, drive by their building and honk a really loud horn, find their business partners and spread false rumors, DDoS their website, make false tips to the SEC that they're scamming investors, etc. That's the image that appears in my head whenever I hear about some startup disrupting an industry; like they're a criminal with poor impulse control.
  - legulere 10y ago
    Disregarding all regulations to be cheaper than all competitors certainly is missing from your list.
- tehrei 10y ago
  Not really. Just label it as "Vintage Honey", write "Experience the taste of honey taken from Egyptian tombs" and add in very tiny letters at the bottom "From 2016 harvest". As long as you don't claim it's actually taken from an Egyptian tomb, you can just spin it however you like. If you want to be somewhat more honest, make sure the bees only drink nectar from flowers that would have been grown during the time of the pharaohs.
anilgulecha 10y ago
Carbon dating would work?
- Olap84 10y ago
  Simples, market it as 1946 honey, no carbon dating after that! 70 year old honey coming at you
  - lozf 10y ago
    It's not old, it's "mature".
  - whamlastxmas 10y ago
    Why 70 years, or why 1946? Tried Googling but didn't see answer. I had thought carbon dating was pretty inaccurate anyways, didn't think it worked on such small time scales. Maybe this is a joke that went over my head.
    - mpitt 10y ago
      I think it refers to the background radiation increase due to atomic bombs, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel Edit: a nice plot https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radiocarbon_bomb_spike.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radiocarbon_bomb_spi...
      - ascorbic 10y ago
        When archaeologists give a date in years Before Present (BP), they measure from 1st January 1950. I guess that makes today -66BP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present
      - whamlastxmas 10y ago
        I wouldn't have guess such small amounts of radiation in the atmosphere would interfere with carbon dating, but I know literally nothing about how it works. Seems like solar radiation and such would be a bigger contributor?
Shivetya 10y ago
Well they can verify butter that is thousands of years old http://www.sltrib.com/home/4004975-155/man-finds-22-pound-chunk-of-butter http://www.sltrib.com/home/4004975-155/man-finds-22-pound-ch... Now of course the butter is only preserved because the bogs keep it cool enough yet it apparently is still edible I can verify it keeps ten plus years and works just fine having bought two two quart containers of sage honey that long ago and having about a fourth of one container left. Sage doesn't even crystallize but for those that do I think a little heat fixes it

Is it actually possible to verify that the "1000 yo" honey is actually 1000 years old? Because if not I'm totally relabeling honey I bought at the supermarket and disrupting the luxury food sector.

gruez 10y ago

Not really "disrupting". More like fraud.

Kristine1975 10y ago
Disrupting is all about challenging antiquated regulations :-)
MichaelBurge 10y ago
Other ways to disrupt established business are to visit their parking lot and slash everyone's tires, cut power and internet to their company buildings, slander them on public television, drive by their building and honk a really loud horn, find their business partners and spread false rumors, DDoS their website, make false tips to the SEC that they're scamming investors, etc. That's the image that appears in my head whenever I hear about some startup disrupting an industry; like they're a criminal with poor impulse control.
- legulere 10y ago
  Disregarding all regulations to be cheaper than all competitors certainly is missing from your list.
tehrei 10y ago
Not really. Just label it as "Vintage Honey", write "Experience the taste of honey taken from Egyptian tombs" and add in very tiny letters at the bottom "From 2016 harvest". As long as you don't claim it's actually taken from an Egyptian tomb, you can just spin it however you like. If you want to be somewhat more honest, make sure the bees only drink nectar from flowers that would have been grown during the time of the pharaohs.

anilgulecha 10y ago

Carbon dating would work?

Olap84 10y ago
Simples, market it as 1946 honey, no carbon dating after that! 70 year old honey coming at you
- lozf 10y ago
  It's not old, it's "mature".
- whamlastxmas 10y ago
  Why 70 years, or why 1946? Tried Googling but didn't see answer. I had thought carbon dating was pretty inaccurate anyways, didn't think it worked on such small time scales. Maybe this is a joke that went over my head.
  - mpitt 10y ago
    I think it refers to the background radiation increase due to atomic bombs, see also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel Edit: a nice plot https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radiocarbon_bomb_spike.svg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Radiocarbon_bomb_spi...
    - ascorbic 10y ago
      When archaeologists give a date in years Before Present (BP), they measure from 1st January 1950. I guess that makes today -66BP. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_Present
    - whamlastxmas 10y ago
      I wouldn't have guess such small amounts of radiation in the atmosphere would interfere with carbon dating, but I know literally nothing about how it works. Seems like solar radiation and such would be a bigger contributor?

Shivetya 10y ago

Well they can verify butter that is thousands of years old http://www.sltrib.com/home/4004975-155/man-finds-22-pound-chunk-of-butter http://www.sltrib.com/home/4004975-155/man-finds-22-pound-ch... Now of course the butter is only preserved because the bogs keep it cool enough yet it apparently is still edible I can verify it keeps ten plus years and works just fine having bought two two quart containers of sage honey that long ago and having about a fourth of one container left. Sage doesn't even crystallize but for those that do I think a little heat fixes it