Subtly equating abusive behavior with people that are energetic and ambitious is clearly baked into the nature of this conversation and that particular facet is

Subtly equating abusive behavior with people that are energetic and ambitious is clearly baked into the nature of this conversation and that particular facet is quite controversial to me, and to a lot of people here that are likely as concerned about abusive behavior as I am. We don't need to institutionally get rid of "rock stars". Their ambition for attention and fame is a recipe for a lot of great things. What I think we really need here is to get better at not enabling them to be abusive, and for calling them out when they are. I also do think we need to get better at choosing who our rock stars are, an opinion I got a long time ago from watching Limp Bizkit win a music award.