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I've read many times that what Trump said about the judge was racist. IMHO, the solid, primary sources do not support that claim. I do intend to post to this
by graycat 10y ago
I've read many times that what Trump said about the judge was racist.
IMHO, the solid, primary sources do not support that claim.
I do intend to post to this thread a response to Altman's post where I give details, but to me the Trump-judge thing went through three steps:
Step 1. Trump asserted that the judge made some unfair decisions against Trump. Maybe Trump was just blowing smoke as part of a good defense, but maybe he was on solid ground. I'm not a lawyer. Then Trump asked -- I have a quote -- why the judge was being unfair.
Step 2. Soon it was clear enough that the judge had Mexican ancestry and was active in some pro-Mexican political activities that conflicted with Trump's campaign positions on illegal immigration from Mexico. Then, and only then, did Trump assert that this background of the judge was likely the reason the judge was unfair.
Or, Trump never claimed that a judge with Mexican ancestry would have to be unfair. Instead, Trump claimed that this judge's actions in the case showed that the judge was unfair to Trump and, then, could, easily enough, see explanatory reasons in the judge's background. Or, if want to say that someone is being unfair, then it helps to give an explanatory reason. In law, that's called motivation or some such, right, and is regarded as important, right?
Step 3. Since then, a lot more has come out on the judge. He's close to some groups that are wildly racist, e.g., want everyone in the US of Western European descent to return to Europe. Trump has concluded that the judge should recuse himself from the case. If the judge does not recuse, then the case starts to look just political.
Maybe a judge really is strongly for pro-Mexican political causes and is eager to be unfair to others. So, in that case we can't say that the judge is unfair because of his pro-Mexican causes? That would be a license for anyone with pro-Mexican causes to be unfair without being criticized.
- mrj 10y ago"Or, Trump never claimed that a judge with Mexican ancestry would have to be unfair." Sure he did. Then he doubled down on it by saying a Muslim Judge might be unfair, too. I'm not sure how anybody could fail to see racism here. DICKERSON: If it were a Muslim judge, would you also feel like they wouldn't be able to treat you fairly because of that policy of yours? TRUMP: It's possible, yes. Yeah. That would be possible, absolutely. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06/05/donald-trump-says-a-muslim-judge-might-be-biased-too/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/06...