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That's interesting, care to elaborate on why? On the surface, it would seem that the engineering requirements for space tend be greater than those involved for

by yarou 10y ago

That's interesting, care to elaborate on why? On the surface, it would seem that the engineering requirements for space tend be greater than those involved for the deep sea. But you have a different set of trade offs; for example, you may end up disturbing the natural equilibrium of the biosphere in the deep sea, whereas in space you wouldn't have such an issue. Also, they would still have to man the station underwater, whereas in asteroid mining, it's relatively easy to send a fleet of drones for resource gathering and discovery. The only station really required would be a fueling station.

MollyR 10y ago
I think there are more accessible natural resources for cheaper acquisition in the deep sea. We don't need the tremendous equipment needed for lift from the atmosphere. The oceans play a more critical role in survival here on earth, and yet we dont know much about the deep sea. Personal Pet Idea, I'm also hoping undiscovered deep sea organisms could give us technological and medical breakthroughs.
aaron695 10y ago
> Also, they would still have to man the station underwater, whereas in asteroid mining, it's relatively easy to send a fleet of drones for resource gathering and discovery. It's interesting why you would think this. Underwater drones would be an order of magnitude easier. For starters you can control them with amazing high bandwidth just using a simple 10km long cord from a boat. You can pull them in for maintenance every day. They cost ~zero $ to deliver. A fishing boat could do it. I think because SciFi movies delivers space so much we lose perspective of how hard it is and how 'easy' other things are. I'm not sure why China is manning this underwater lab other than it's cool. (like going to the moon)
- T-A 10y ago
  Impressive things that already exist: http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/industrial-robots/seabedmining-robots-will-dig-for-gold-in-hydrothermal-vents http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/industrial-robots/seabedmi...
dogma1138 10y ago
Because space mining doesn't makes much sense unless you also manufacture things in space. Even at 100 times less cost per KG into orbit it would still be too expensive even for the rarest of elements. And even if you have a 0$ per kg cost to orbit launch system you still need to find an economical way of getting things down to earth which is even a bigger problem than launching your mining equipment and personnel in the first place.
DougWebb 10y ago
Some engineering requirements for space are easier, some are harder. The pressures involved in underwater systems are far greater; in space you're either dealing with no pressure at all (robotic drones) or at most 1atm of pressure (human habitat.) Underwater, the pressure increases by 1atm for every 10 meters of depth [1]. At the sea floor you're looking at 20 to 400 atm depending on where you go, and that affects both robotic drones and human habitats. On the flip side, if you're doing underwater drones then they never have to go more than a handful of km away from a surface vessel, so you can stay physically connected to them. That makes power, communication, and retrieval far easier. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea#Pressure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea#Pressure

by yarou 10y ago

MollyR 10y ago

I think there are more accessible natural resources for cheaper acquisition in the deep sea. We don't need the tremendous equipment needed for lift from the atmosphere. The oceans play a more critical role in survival here on earth, and yet we dont know much about the deep sea. Personal Pet Idea, I'm also hoping undiscovered deep sea organisms could give us technological and medical breakthroughs.

aaron695 10y ago

> Also, they would still have to man the station underwater, whereas in asteroid mining, it's relatively easy to send a fleet of drones for resource gathering and discovery. It's interesting why you would think this. Underwater drones would be an order of magnitude easier. For starters you can control them with amazing high bandwidth just using a simple 10km long cord from a boat. You can pull them in for maintenance every day. They cost ~zero $ to deliver. A fishing boat could do it. I think because SciFi movies delivers space so much we lose perspective of how hard it is and how 'easy' other things are. I'm not sure why China is manning this underwater lab other than it's cool. (like going to the moon)

T-A 10y ago
Impressive things that already exist: http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/industrial-robots/seabedmining-robots-will-dig-for-gold-in-hydrothermal-vents http://spectrum.ieee.org/robotics/industrial-robots/seabedmi...

dogma1138 10y ago

Because space mining doesn't makes much sense unless you also manufacture things in space. Even at 100 times less cost per KG into orbit it would still be too expensive even for the rarest of elements. And even if you have a 0$ per kg cost to orbit launch system you still need to find an economical way of getting things down to earth which is even a bigger problem than launching your mining equipment and personnel in the first place.

DougWebb 10y ago

Some engineering requirements for space are easier, some are harder. The pressures involved in underwater systems are far greater; in space you're either dealing with no pressure at all (robotic drones) or at most 1atm of pressure (human habitat.) Underwater, the pressure increases by 1atm for every 10 meters of depth [1]. At the sea floor you're looking at 20 to 400 atm depending on where you go, and that affects both robotic drones and human habitats. On the flip side, if you're doing underwater drones then they never have to go more than a handful of km away from a surface vessel, so you can stay physically connected to them. That makes power, communication, and retrieval far easier. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea#Pressure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea#Pressure