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Somewhere in between. For example: We recognize that false reports are very unlikely, but we also recognize there is currently an enormous social bonus awarde

by said 10y ago

Somewhere in between. For example: We recognize that false reports are very unlikely, but we also recognize there is currently an enormous social bonus awarded to victims of harassment, particularly female victims. Let's examine all the facts, and even if we can't gather enough evidence to take any action, we'll keep a record of this report for any future incidents.

prawn 10y ago
What social bonus is awarded to victims enough to justify speaking out? I'd say any negatives greatly outweigh the attention they might receive. Countless victims never come forward for good reason. If any corporation used your suggestion as an official statement including the "but we also" segment, they'd be thrashed mercilessly in the media, and for good reason. Why not just start with: "All complaints will be investigated, and regardless of outcome, records will be kept for future reference."
- said 10y ago
  > What social bonus is awarded to victims enough to justify speaking out? Particularly in tech, from most to least common: 1. An outpouring of sympathy 2. An outpouring of attention 3. Mobs of angry people ready to fight on your behalf 4. Job offers 5. Conference speaking offers > they'd be thrashed mercilessly in the media Yes, they would.
  - prawn 10y ago
    Vs: mobs working against you, companies avoiding you because your name is now associated with something negative, abuse/threats on social media, etc.
- throwllll 10y ago
  Start by having a fair policy that protect everyone involved, without ignoring complaints. 1# All complaints will be investigated 2# All accusation of crimes will be forwarded to the police. 3# All details will be held behind locked doors, including the name/s of the accused and name/s of the accuser. 4# Actions will be taken if policy has been broken, as per a impartial committee that is picked by the community. Actions will also be taken if anyone is found guilty of a crime by the justice system.

by said 10y ago

prawn 10y ago

What social bonus is awarded to victims enough to justify speaking out? I'd say any negatives greatly outweigh the attention they might receive. Countless victims never come forward for good reason. If any corporation used your suggestion as an official statement including the "but we also" segment, they'd be thrashed mercilessly in the media, and for good reason. Why not just start with: "All complaints will be investigated, and regardless of outcome, records will be kept for future reference."

said 10y ago
> What social bonus is awarded to victims enough to justify speaking out? Particularly in tech, from most to least common: 1. An outpouring of sympathy 2. An outpouring of attention 3. Mobs of angry people ready to fight on your behalf 4. Job offers 5. Conference speaking offers > they'd be thrashed mercilessly in the media Yes, they would.
- prawn 10y ago
  Vs: mobs working against you, companies avoiding you because your name is now associated with something negative, abuse/threats on social media, etc.
throwllll 10y ago
Start by having a fair policy that protect everyone involved, without ignoring complaints. 1# All complaints will be investigated 2# All accusation of crimes will be forwarded to the police. 3# All details will be held behind locked doors, including the name/s of the accused and name/s of the accuser. 4# Actions will be taken if policy has been broken, as per a impartial committee that is picked by the community. Actions will also be taken if anyone is found guilty of a crime by the justice system.