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is that still the case? I heard how porn drives innovation, but I'm not sure I've seen too many examples in the last 4/5 years.

jacquesm 17y ago
Hard to tell without being hip-deep in that world, but the number of players makes it an ultra-competitive market, possibly the most competitive segment of all online business. And that includes gambling / gaming and so on. Right now I think the major players in the market have all gone through several boom-bust cycles, and are concentrating on billing and other financials. Some of the larger ones own their own IPSPs and are facilitating payments for third parties, ironically most of them non-adult. This is to manage the charge-back rates, because historically large adult companies have been literally blown up by taking their banks down. I used to be fairly close to people working in the adult business, so my knowledge is at least a few years old, the innovation right now is centered more around business models, finance, diversification and other non-technical items. I think that is in part because all the basic components to run an online business are now well understood and there are plenty of ways to deliver media. edit: maybe mobile devices will really create a shift, but from what I've seen so far it will be an incremental thing rather than something that just hits one year and will leave the way we interact with online resources unrecognizable from the year before. I doubt if there will be any major technological development, inside or outside porn until we hit something like 'the street' from Stephensons novels.
- whatusername 17y ago
  Thankyou. That makes complete sense - that competition would be driving innovation, and me not seeing it means that it's on the back-end. The process/model/non-tech stuff rather than the technology.
- froo 17y ago
  >I doubt if there will be any major technological development, inside or outside porn I'm not sure if that is the case. (link below is NSFW) http://gizmodo.com/5129520/realtouch-teledildonics-as-designed-by-former-nasa-engineer-nsfw http://gizmodo.com/5129520/realtouch-teledildonics-as-design... As we're seeing people embedding the web in many other devices, the same is happening in porn. It's bizarre, but I don't think we've seen the zenith of porn tech yet
- mattblalock 17y ago
  The only real development I know of going on in the porn industry right now is 3D. They're all on it. I'm not sure who's doing what with what technology, but I'd look out for some very Idiocracy style pornography in the near future. [note: I'm in the adult industry, as many of you found out tonight here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1193169 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1193169 ]
  - jacquesm 17y ago
    Ah yes, good point, 3D would be a logical next step. I completely overlooked that :)
thirdusername 17y ago
Vanguard made a piece about porn industry and the what the effects of the internet has on it that had some relevant bits on innovation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsO5uNVCWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsO5uNVCWI. One of the porn company's tech guys claimed they were the first to pull of live HD streaming and they had a TV network calling for consultation.

jacquesm 17y ago

Hard to tell without being hip-deep in that world, but the number of players makes it an ultra-competitive market, possibly the most competitive segment of all online business. And that includes gambling / gaming and so on. Right now I think the major players in the market have all gone through several boom-bust cycles, and are concentrating on billing and other financials. Some of the larger ones own their own IPSPs and are facilitating payments for third parties, ironically most of them non-adult. This is to manage the charge-back rates, because historically large adult companies have been literally blown up by taking their banks down. I used to be fairly close to people working in the adult business, so my knowledge is at least a few years old, the innovation right now is centered more around business models, finance, diversification and other non-technical items. I think that is in part because all the basic components to run an online business are now well understood and there are plenty of ways to deliver media. edit: maybe mobile devices will really create a shift, but from what I've seen so far it will be an incremental thing rather than something that just hits one year and will leave the way we interact with online resources unrecognizable from the year before. I doubt if there will be any major technological development, inside or outside porn until we hit something like 'the street' from Stephensons novels.

whatusername 17y ago
Thankyou. That makes complete sense - that competition would be driving innovation, and me not seeing it means that it's on the back-end. The process/model/non-tech stuff rather than the technology.
froo 17y ago
>I doubt if there will be any major technological development, inside or outside porn I'm not sure if that is the case. (link below is NSFW) http://gizmodo.com/5129520/realtouch-teledildonics-as-designed-by-former-nasa-engineer-nsfw http://gizmodo.com/5129520/realtouch-teledildonics-as-design... As we're seeing people embedding the web in many other devices, the same is happening in porn. It's bizarre, but I don't think we've seen the zenith of porn tech yet
mattblalock 17y ago
The only real development I know of going on in the porn industry right now is 3D. They're all on it. I'm not sure who's doing what with what technology, but I'd look out for some very Idiocracy style pornography in the near future. [note: I'm in the adult industry, as many of you found out tonight here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1193169 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1193169 ]
- jacquesm 17y ago
  Ah yes, good point, 3D would be a logical next step. I completely overlooked that :)

thirdusername 17y ago

Vanguard made a piece about porn industry and the what the effects of the internet has on it that had some relevant bits on innovation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsO5uNVCWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LsO5uNVCWI. One of the porn company's tech guys claimed they were the first to pull of live HD streaming and they had a TV network calling for consultation.